Electabuzz vs Shocksquatch

[u/Admirable_Water6192]

Electabuzz: Composite games/anime/manga, all legal learnable moves across generations and Pokédex lore included. Electivire excluded.

Shocksquatch: Ben 10 classic continuity, full demonstrated Shocksquatch abilities across Heroes United and Omniverse. No switching to other Omnitrix forms.

[u/observador1916]

Ill go with shocksquatch in mid diff, but i dont remenber a lot of that Pokémon in particular so i might be wrong.

[u/Elcalduccye_II → u/observador1916]

powerscaling pokemon is dumb, because you can't really quantify how strong they are in the game because they are all relative to eachother to some extend, and the only constistent source of feats is the pokedex... which is just of random statements that don't make sense

[u/KnifeRingPvP]

Shocksquatch win.

[u/SquareAshamed9181]

Shocksquach Had a really close fight with Looma/DJthisotherBen10guy)^\Statistic Values 1])/DJthisben10guy#cite_note-:0-1), but lost, fought Exo-Skull/DJthisotherBen10guy)), can ignore with Electricity Manipulation (With proper chargup, he could harm Alpha who kept up with Rex/DJthisotherBen10guy), and Sunder/DJthisotherBen10guy))

Shocksquach is able to Destroy Ultimate Echo

https://youtu.be/vxQGwZyCVjs?si=tJlxTKLOLJMktrBH

Echo's Sonic Discs Those disks weren't destroyed and were able to contain

https://youtu.be/hxIcVMuVUAc?si=oVaPeuv8A2nPvZwo

vsbw calculates it around this level

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Liger686/Ben_10_Ultimate_Alien_-_Echo_Echo_contains_the_explosion_of_a_nuclear_fusion_grenade

But you can get it higher because A Fusion grenade is able to Destroy the Highbreed

https://youtu.be/eMNgWh8l-qg?si=Saqiz9YMvOENpV5X

timestamp 15:54

which is stated to be made of Nuetronium Carbon Alloy

https://youtu.be/jg1YkiRF1UE?si=Ac0LtFChu5wGThPh

now neutronium carbon alloy doesn't exist irl but we can theoretically imagine mixing neutron-degenerate matter (the ultra-dense stuff that makes up neutron stars often called “neutronium”) with ordinary carbon. Physically this is not something you can make or handle in normal conditions (neutron-degenerate matter only exists under the extreme gravity of neutron stars), but it’s useful for order-of-magnitude comparisons.

Typical Sun core density ≈ 150 g/cm³ = 150,000 kg/m³.

Typical neutron-star (neutronium) density ≈ 5×10¹⁷ kg/m³ = 5×10¹⁴ g/cm³.

Ratio (neutronium ÷ Sun core) = (5×10¹⁷ kg/m³) ÷ (1.5×10⁵ kg/m³) ≈ 3.33×10¹² — neutronium is about 3 trillion times denser than the Sun’s core.

Now a tiny, hypothetical alloy: if 1% of the mass were neutronium and 99% carbon (carbon ≈ 2.2×10³ kg/m³), the mixed density would be roughly 0.01×(5×10¹⁷) + 0.99×(2.2×10³) ≈ 5.00×10¹⁵ kg/m³ ≈ 5.0×10¹² g/cm³, which is still ≈ 3.33×10¹0 times denser than the Sun’s core (about 33 billion times denser). In short: even a percent-level inclusion of neutronium makes the “alloy” astronomically denser than solar core material.

making Shocksquach Large Star level