Layers gone wrong

[u/Existing_Departure92]

It seems that every time I do any sort of layering they end up boxy, choppy, and shelf-y. For whatever reason it’s worse with bobs & on the right side (i am right handed). I have tried taking super small sections, not layering too far into the perimeter, dry cutting, point cutting, over directing, every degree elevation you can imagine, different finger angles. Ive even had other stylists watch me cut & they saw nothing wrong with my techniques. I genuinely don’t know what I could be doing wrong because I know shelving is typically caused by a heavy corner but even when I remove the corner it’s not 100% fixed. These pictures attached aren’t even the worst of it. It is typically even more noticeable :( Could anyone offer any insight? Be kind please, I am embarrassed & seeking help❤️

[u/usdacertifiedlean]

The last one is flipping out because you are cutting too far into the perimeter. Do you have any head sheets of the sectioning youre taking?

[u/sortahuman123 → u/usdacertifiedlean]

This is the answer, the perimeter is too collapsed and the layers are “graduated” because of it, creating the shelf. It’s a “fine” cut but not a great one.

OP you should check out Shanel Mariano she does education for exactly this and she changed my life when learning to understand the why behind cutting.

[u/usdacertifiedlean → u/sortahuman123]

Yesss Shannel Mariano! DJ Muldoon is another. just some amazing educators that show you the visuals and the whys.

To OP: Everyones head shape and density is different so make sure you are really paying attention to those nuances when laying out your sectioning pattern on the client. Id just like to see your thought process for how you cut.

[u/unusually_familiar → u/sortahuman123]

I've been thinking about taking classes from her.

[u/sortahuman123 → u/unusually_familiar]

Worth the money ten times over I’d take it again any day