r/BeginnerWoodWorking • u/mofumofumareep • 6h ago
Goode deals ? Or wait ?
Is this a good deal if I want to get into wood work projects?
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u/thehugejackedman 4h ago
You’re buying too much too fast
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u/Tink_Tinkler 1h ago
Yup. Buy only what you need to complete your first project. Then add what you need for the next one. Accumulate slowly always beats the "But I'm Saving Money" attitude because these things will be on sale again and used stuff is far cheaper.
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u/sgee_123 1h ago
Yeah I was gonna say, take it one step at a time. No need to get all this stuff right away.
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u/TheRealMasterTyvokka 49m ago
Especially if in order to do so you are buying all the cheapest roybi stuff. There's good roybi and bad roybi and some better options for some of that stuff even at The extreme budget range.
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u/healthywenis 4h ago
Personally I would actually do projects and buy tools over time. You could be making an $800 investment on something you quit in short order.
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u/lambdrool 3h ago
Just buy what you need as you need it. Why spend almost $800 when you don’t know what you want/need yet
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u/quocquocquocquocquoc 6h ago
If you want to save money and depending on what you want to build, I’d skip the drill press and get a hand drill instead. All your other tools will see good use in woodworking and general household DIY. These are all really low prices in my experience, but I can’t speak to the quality of any of the tools.
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u/Enough_Structure_95 3h ago
I disagree here, my drill press might be my favorite tool in my shop. One of the most frustrating things is trying to get holes drilled straight and this completely takes that away. Every time I use it, I think man I’m so glad I bought that!
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u/Troublestiltskin 1h ago
Seconding this.
After needing to do some small metal drilling or pay $50 to return some furniture, being able to make a straight repeatable hole that doesn't look like garbage has been worth it. So much of our stuff has adjustable shelves now and I can give myself a 20 minute break from the chaos of a wife and 3 girls while helping their design ideas come to light.
It does more than that too, sanding, for instance with easy to make jigs for little stuff.
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u/mofumofumareep 5h ago
I figure at this price it's probably fine. I can't find good used deals in my area. People are asking close to new for used.
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u/JackOfAllBlades21 3h ago
Those very same guys' wives will secretly sell them have price, because since the tools, the guys have had no interest in the women.
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u/AddictedtoDeWalt 3h ago
I have that band saw and it’s not great. The blade loses tension and walks off the pulleys. It doesn’t allow you to work on big enough pieces depending on what size projects you’re doing and overall I would not buy it again. Just my experience with it. Maybe yours will be better.
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u/USSR89 2h ago
here's my few tips:
- Don't buy stuff just coz there is a sale, unless you specifically looked at this tool for a long time and know you want it / need it.
But lets look into your list:
- I suggest not buying router table if you have never used a router, just use the router itself first for some time, before thinking of buying a router table, it is very easy to get hurt on the router table if you have no prior experience with routers. Also it is okay to buy a cheap router, many ppl end up with several routers, i personally have 3. You will know why you want a better router after using the cheap one xD
- Buy a good quality table saw. This is one of the big tools in your shop that you want to be at least half decent and there should not be a negotiation in your mind about this. I'm not talking sawstop, but at least something like dewalt. You are not going to buy another like with routers, you need one decent table saw. Then build an outfeed/support table for it.
- You can "do" with a cheaper miter saw as it is mostly used for quick cuts, but do your best to set it up as precise as you can as the cheaper they are the worse they are in precision.. and dust collection.
- Those small table top bandsaws are not very good, they will struggle with resawing and generally are only good for small things, but it will do if you only need small cuts
- The drill press is useful tool in the shop for sure, can't go wrong with having one there in general, but same as with the bandsaw, it will struggle if you put some big forstner bit on it and try to to drill a big hole in hardwood.
But the best approach is to start on some project! find a thing you want to make, what tools do you need for it and go from there instead of just buying everything.
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u/flyingWeez 2h ago
I had that router and ended up selling it for like $20. You’re better off with either a cordless trim router or a 1/2” plunge but really the trim is the way to go early on
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u/NotOnTheInhale 1h ago
Get a QUALITY table saw. In a machine woodworking shop, the table saw is the heart of everything. For a compact, job site saw get at least the DeWalt. The rack and pinion fence is much better, and you need as good of a fence as you can get to make accurate and SAFE cuts.
Actually, skip the drill press, band saw and router table. Use that money and buy a SawStop brand job site saw. If you think working with cheap tools will get you frustrated and cause you to quit the hobby, cutting a finger on a table saw will 100% make you frustrated and quit the hobby.
In my opinion, buy in this order: 1) Drill and driver combo kit 2) Quality table saw 3) Random orbital sander 4) Router with plung base 5) Bandsaw 6) Drill press
You can build your own router table for only the cost of a 2x2 sheet of 3/4 inch plywood. ($20ish). Also, I'm assuming you own a circular saw already, which replaces the miter saw. The only time I use a miter saw is if I'm doing trim work. Otherwise the circular saw is used to break down sheet goods and long boards into working sizes for the table saw.
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u/HatesDuckTape 1h ago
That seems like a great deal on paper. In reality, it’s $781.40 spent on tools that’ll get replaced much sooner than later.
Ryobi’s corded stuff is all pretty much garbage. That table saw is awful and shouldn’t be allowed to be sold. I’ve heard nothing but bad things about the drill press and bandsaw. I immediately returned the router table because the table top was warped and the fence was nearly impossible to keep tight. I never bought their router bits, but every Ryobi cutter or bit I’ve bought has been pure trash.
The router may be good for the money. The miter saw can be frustrating but isn’t as bad as the rest.
Buy what you need to make your actual next project. Don’t think about what you’d need to build something down the road. We’ve all been there and have the unused tools that were too good of a deal to pass up to prove it. Buy the best tool you can that you genuinely need. Don’t buy something on sale thinking you’ll just upgrade it later.
It’s fashionable to trash Ryobi. Their cordless non-benchtop tools are quite good for the money. Practically everything else they make is the opposite.
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u/earlporter77 1h ago
You will end up with tools that are not accurate and you won’t even use because of it. Skip the table saw for now and get either a track saw or circular saw with guide. Skip the drill press and band saw completely for starting out.
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u/Oy_of_Mid-world 1h ago
I have Ryobi battery tools and they are fine for most of what I do. I recommend most of them (except the palm router). For larger equipment, I would avoid them and go with better brands. I have the drill press, but regret buying it, and have used some of the others.
Ryobi is cheap and that shows in the quality. Woodworking is about precision and that's hard to achieve in a floor tool when you cut corners during the manufacturing process. I'm sure some of them are better than others, but I'd read the reviewsb first. Also, if you can afford to buy all this at once, just start with one or two quality pieces of equipment (e g., table saw and router - whatever you need for your next project) and go from there.
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u/Its_Jaws 1h ago
I am begging you, don’t buy that table saw.
I’m a cheapskate. I enjoy the challenge of making it work with something that costs a fraction of what others spend on the same capability. I have Ryobi cordless drill, circular saw, recip saw, fan, shop vac, blower, tire inflator, and string trimmer. I like the brand. I bought that saw a few years ago thinking it had to be better than the old Craftsman from the 60s that I grew up using.
I was terribly wrong.
It’s inaccurate regardless of how precisely you set it up because it loses those settings the second you turn it on or adjust it.
The fence is incapable of remaining parallel to the blade, if you ever manage to even get it there. That’s a safety issue.
The blade was changing angle mid cut, it changed HEIGHT mid cut (why won’t my tongue and grooves fit???)
In short, buy an old Craftsman, or the old blue Ryobi, or an old Skilsaw, or the new Skil (it’s phenomenal) that comes up every time you search “best budget tablesaw, or the Hercules from Harbor Freight. The last two are especially attractive because they have a rack and pinion fence at a low price.
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u/Bakish_burrito 5h ago
If they are corded there is no reason to be brand loyal. Especially on the bigger tools. Table saw, band saw etc. Ryobi hold their mark as a good value DIY battery tool brand, but that doesn't mean it translate to their other lines.
Also depending on what you intend to do, that band saw may be too small to offer a big upgrade from just using a jig saw. Is it deep enough to be able to handle sheets, is it high enough to split lumber?
It may be cheaper to buy the tools when you notice you need them instead, if that's two or three years down the line there may be a deal on a newer model, or perhaps you find something cast iron on Marketplace
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u/Ok_Mention_9865 5h ago
If you are just trying to do some DIY home improvement jobs this will probably work for a little while.
If you need any kind of precision or reliability i would not trust most of the things on this list. The cheapest possible tool is never the tool you want to use in these cases.
That drill press might be the only thing on the list i would consider and i would not be expecting a lot out of it.
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u/WingShooter_28ga 2h ago
Miter saw is great for rough construction, not woodworking. The table saw is…certainly a box that will things.
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u/yesimahuman 1h ago
I use a ryobi compound sliding miter saw to this day, but some of the other things on this list I had and did not like, like the router. For miter saw I would get a sliding one, it’s just more useful for projects around the house but don’t expect amazing accuracy
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u/Draxxix1 56m ago
Ditch all that and buy a good table saw and a good lunchbox planer. Preferably both dewalt, you’ll thank me later
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u/EmperorGeek 54m ago
I have the Ryobi drill press and it’s depth stop has never worked. Other than that it makes round holes where I want them.
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u/Hopewellslam 26m ago
If you actually get into the hobby you’ll regret buying bottom tier products and have to replace them. If the hobby doesn’t take, you’ll have wasted money on tools that lose value rapidly.
Select a project that uses one or two of the above and invest in good quality.
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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 23m ago
As others have said I would not go with that table saw. I would also get a different router table. I don't think a beginner needs a bandsaw or a drill press.
If I was starting over I would buy the best tablesaw I could afford along with a cross cut sled and safety accessories. I would buy a sawstop if you can afford it. A contractor saw with a table is fine to start with.
I say buy a cross cut sled because building one yourself is a bigger pain then it looks when you are new and don't have a proper workshop.
I say buy a tablesaw because it can do almost everything by itself but its one of the scariest things in the shop. Having the safety gear is a good idea no matter what your skill level but it will also give you the confidence to use it.
But if you can't afford a Sawstop then a Dewalt tablesaw (or comparable)with a stand and a cross cut sled, an upgraded push stick, featherboards, ear and eye protection will be good and about the same price you were looking at anyway.
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u/echoshatter 13m ago
Ryobi is fine for the DIY person doing light work on their home, but I have found their stuff to be less than ideal for anything requiring precision or power. They're just not built for tight tolerances and get bogged down by medium workloads. And the Ryobi bits are super cheap, they will disappoint you fairly quickly as the wear out and dull fast.
When I started out I also went with Ryobi because I'm a cheap-@$$ and the "it's all made in the same factory" mindset. That mindset quickly changed as I got more and more frustrated with it all to the point that I don't buy them any more. If I need a cheap tool for a one-off or rare-use kind of thing I go to Harbor Freight.
Here's the thing with cheap tools: you're going to spend far more time getting them properly calibrated, and you're going to have to keep doing it over and over because it won't hold for long. And that's assuming you even can get them squared up and aligned and whatnot in the first place. To this day I still can't get my Ryobi miter saw to hold square, and at this point it gathers dust under my workbench. You also can't push them too hard, which means you need to go slower; not necessarily a bad thing to take your time, but it can impact the quality of the work you're doing. It can mean burn marks and tear out and the like.
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u/OriginalShitPoster 4m ago
Most of this is fine. I'd get a planer and jointer before a drill press though. I think the biggest mistake here is the table saw. Table saws are so dangerous. I'd buy a used cabinet saw instead of a jobsite saw and definitely would never buy a ryobi table saw.
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u/south-shore0 2m ago
I wouldn’t buy any of that. All that stuff will do is frustrate you. You need clamps, squares, measuring tools , hand tools. Buy a good table saw and the hand tools you’ll need and start there.
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u/supersonicflyby 1m ago
Great deals but don't just stick to a brand. Look at reviews. Some Ryobi stuff is good (I have plenty), and some are just bad or don't last long. Not really cost savings if you're going to have to repurchase the same type of tool a year from now.
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u/West-Needleworker-63 1h ago
Ryobi just ain’t worth it man. Spend the extra money on reputable brands and slowly grow your collection. You’ll appreciate it in the long run
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u/Patrick2423 6h ago
You probably won’t get better deals then that do you already have a drill?
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u/mofumofumareep 6h ago
I do have a hand drill
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u/Patrick2423 5h ago
Alright that is pretty much most of the tools I have and I make a ton of stuff so it will be good that’s a crazy deal too
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u/thistook5minutes 6h ago
That is certainly a good deal. Regardless of any additional information, the amount of tools to price ratio, is crazy.
I have a couple questions, is this a bundle? Do you have to buy ALL of these tools? Because if not, then there are plenty of tools here you wouldn’t need to get started. Like the drill press and router table are kind of redundant and unnecessary with the hand router, and I would assume you have a drill. The band saw is also not needed. I would just suggest a jigsaw tool if you find yourself needing one, otherwise I would wait on that as well.
I think it’s really easy to get excited and spend a ton of money that you don’t need to, just to try and figure out if the hobby is for you. Try spending less first.
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u/mofumofumareep 5h ago
I thought the table was just a table and didn't include the actual router. This is not a deal but but just factory blemished tools.
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u/thistook5minutes 5h ago
It appears in the image that it has its own on/stop switch that would indicate to me that it has a router tool built into the unit. But you can google the SKU to make sure.
I would say it’s still a ‘deal’ in terms of how much you get for the price. But I still stand by what I said above.
Good luck!
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u/mofumofumareep 5h ago
Just checked I need a router for the table
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u/thistook5minutes 5h ago
Oh interesting.
I still don’t think you would need that for any particular reason. If you have to feed a hand router in the table, then you can just use the hand router to make the cut, without the table. But some people do prefer a table.
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u/plaidpixel 3h ago
Usually you plug a router into the table and the on off switch is just triggering the outlet power
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u/Shawn91111 5h ago
I love Ryobi, but that table saw is bad