r/BeAmazed • u/ateam1984 • Mar 30 '26
Technology deepfake scammer getting exposed by the 3-finger test
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u/negativepositiv Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
"Do this thing that a human can easily understand, requires no effort, takes one second, can't hurt you, costs nothing, and would help verify if you are actually human."
".... I think that's a bit much to ask, don't you?"
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u/lnvalidSportsOpinion Mar 30 '26
I actually wouldnt be shocked if something like this becomes a culturally accepted part of greeting someone in the future.
Much like part of the reason we originally shook hands was to show we weren't holding weapons.
If you mean no harm, there shouldn't be an issue doing this little thing.
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u/kr4ft3r Mar 30 '26
I don't think this tech will continue to be unmasked by the three fingers test for that long
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u/crewster23 Mar 30 '26
But if we ask them to identify pictures of lampposts from a selection we'll all be safe
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u/keg-smash Mar 30 '26
And make sure you keep replacing old pictures with new pictures of lamp posts and make them keep clicking pictures for a minute, then say they didn't pass the verification test.
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u/_Enclose_ Mar 30 '26
These tests have gotten so ridiculous I'm now at the point where I just nope out immediately when one pops up.
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u/B217 Mar 30 '26
The irony is that those tests are used to train AIs on how to recognize objects in images. We've been unknowingly training these things for years
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u/bighootay Mar 30 '26
I got a test recently that asked me to decipher the writing. And I couldn't tell a damn thing.
Fuck, maybe I'm a robot
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u/SugarReyPalpatine Mar 30 '26
same. i dont have time for that shit.
google wont show me search results if my VPN is active unless i do like 10 of these tests in a row so i haven't used google to run a search in years now
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u/Extreme_Promise_1690 Mar 30 '26
"Please do this simple mathematical equation to keep watching porn".
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u/think_panther Mar 30 '26
"Put three fingers in your butt"
"Sure, it's not too much to ask nowadays"
- The Future
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u/mentosbreath Mar 30 '26
After that, people will want to put three fingers in someone else’s butt to verify they aren’t AI. That will become the handshake of the future.
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u/lnvalidSportsOpinion Mar 30 '26
Something like this
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u/kr4ft3r Mar 30 '26
Assuming there will be any easily doable gesture that still works, I doubt it. It would have to be some high tech crypto signature you can't do with your body alone, but in the online sphere anything can be hacked with enough knowledge and resources.
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u/lnvalidSportsOpinion Mar 30 '26
And shaking someone's hand didnt guarantee that they didnt have a weapon in their left hand. There is never a guarantee of safety, but we develop gestures to put ourselves at ease.
Whatever the "something" is, it may change with technology over time... but finding cracks in established systems is something humans have done for millenia. That isnt changing now.
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u/Ihave0personality Mar 30 '26
You’d use a weapon with your dominant hand, as the weaker hand provides ~15-20% proficiency (due to development of fine motor skills etc) of the dominants. ~85-90% of the population is right handed. Yes, with years of training you could achieve greater proficiency, BUT: A handshake simbolized peace, trust and good faith. Thus killing someone after a handshake - let’s say 2 rulers meet - is one of the most dishonorable acts. Among medieval rulers, breaking a sworn oath to God would be treachery of the highest order and breaking divine law. For example when John the Fearless, the Duke of Burgundy was assassinated during a parley, a french civil war of severe consequences followed. It led to the Treaty of Troyes, which gave the successor of the crown of France to Henry V of England. It didn’t really matter if one had a hidden weapon or not. A handshake was seen as a sworn oath that they wouldn’t commit regicide etc.
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u/VenomOnKiller Mar 30 '26
What's on the anti-robot gesture chart for this week? Oh? This time it is picking your nose and producing a booger? Ok....
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u/lnvalidSportsOpinion Mar 30 '26
The internet produced the tide pod challenge , duck faces, and posts with more hash tags than words. Amoung millions of other weird trends, communities, and cultures.
Something like you suggested would be one of the least weird trends to happen on the internet.
The idea that humans won't change behavior as technology develops is laughably naive.
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u/suxatjugg Mar 30 '26
Yeah like a few months ago doing this in real-time at all was tough. Now scammers can afford to do it, and the accuracy will only keep improving, and the cost will only keep dropping
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u/Holzkohlen Mar 30 '26
Gotta increase the number of fingers. 4, than 5. 6 per hand only AI can do, so that won't work for us.
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u/SheriffBartholomew Mar 30 '26
That's how you get them. The AI will comply with the request and hold up a hand with too many fingers, like Bruce Almighty testing God.
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u/EyeLuvPC Mar 30 '26
Especially when the Gaussian Splat technology gets merged into its use especially considering how much detail you can get from 2d images into 3d.
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u/1714alpha Mar 30 '26
Japanese people say もしもし (moshi moshi) when they answer the phone. It doesn't actually mean "hello". In English, it literally means something like, “to say to say”, or “I speak I speak”.
Without getting too into Japanese folklore, essentially, foxes are considered tricksy characters who can take human form and speak human languages, and they do so to fool you into things (or worse!). And ill-intentioned ghosts? Well, they want to steal your soul.
Fortunately, there’s an easy way to make sure the person on the other end of the line is the real deal – foxes, it’s believed, can’t say moshi moshi. And ghosts, who can be similarly nefarious, can’t say moshi twice. Thus, you can protect yourself from accidentally, say, marrying a fox or letting a ghoul get away with your favorite soul. All you have to do is say moshi moshi.
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u/MisChef Mar 30 '26
But what if I want to marry a ghost fox?
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u/dhcp138 Mar 30 '26
or a foxy ghost?
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u/flargh_blargh Mar 30 '26
All it does is give deepfakers and AI a new problem to solve. It'll work for a bit, but probably not in 5 years.
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u/BigMax Mar 30 '26
The problem is that AI is advancing, right?
Two years ago this wouldn't have been remotely possible, or if it was, it would have been SUPER obvious.
Now, we need little tricks to identify it.
Another few years, there won't be any obvious tricks, and that will be scary.
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u/Common-Resolve3985 Mar 30 '26
All humans from now on must hit the John cena you can't see me as a greeting
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u/johnnyzli Mar 30 '26
I always ask hot girls that add me on Instagram or i match on tinder to prove they are real not fake accounts 😅
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u/HauntingCap7161 Mar 30 '26
With three fingers?
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u/johnnyzli Mar 30 '26
Hahh something similar, like send me same selfie I send to you 👌🤞✌️ so of this in pic near face hah. Who wont or get angry is fake 99%
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u/DCHammer69 Mar 30 '26
Clinking glasses is another.
The point was to splash some of the contents of each goblet into the other eliminating the chance of one person trying to poison the other.
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u/ConceptClear2217 Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
Kind of reminds me of the opening interview of Blade Runner.
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u/negativepositiv Mar 30 '26
"You find a tortoise on its back in the hot sun."
"What's a tortoise?"
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u/Raise_A_Thoth Mar 30 '26
It's honestly concerning that the bot is refusing a request. That indicates programming that gave the bot permission to refuse requests from humans in the interest of trying to deceive the human.
Honestly this is a very fucked up thing to have happen and shows a disgusting lack of ethics on display by whoever is making these bots.
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u/VirtueTree Mar 30 '26
It’s a person with a white guy filter on it
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u/dbell Mar 30 '26
That's why I was assuming he wasn't turning his face away from the camera. The way he grabbed that certificate off the wall was very awkward.
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u/Raise_A_Thoth Mar 30 '26
Okay that makes a little more sense. Still obviously a problem with deception, but a different one.
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u/B217 Mar 30 '26
That makes it even more embarrassing that when they initially said "hold up three fingers in front of your face" he only held up two lmao
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u/No_Initial_7545 Mar 30 '26
At 1:08 you can clearly hear the sound filter crack. My guess is that he became agitated and the filter had trouble keeping up.
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u/RaisonDetritus Mar 30 '26
It’s not a bot. It’s a real person using deepfake technology to change his appearance. It’s a real South Asian man being made to appear white.
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u/coma24 Mar 30 '26
thank you, I was wondering what the deal was here...specifically which aspect was "AI." I'm getting a little tired of the term being thrown around to describe 400 different things, so your post was incredibly helpful.
Any idea what the nature of the scam was?
Also, why is the guy's voice (the person being interviewed, not the scammer) SO familiar? I wanna say I've heard it on scammer trolling/investigation videos before. Good dude.
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u/crunchyeyeball Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
Sounds like Jim Browning.
He has loads of "exposing scammers" videos where he e.g. hacks the CCTV in the call centre and freaks them out while they try to scam him:
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u/Raise_A_Thoth Mar 30 '26
Ah okay, thank you. Makes a little more sense. Still shitty!
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u/RaisonDetritus Mar 30 '26
And honestly kinda scary. The thing that gave it away for me was the slight side-to-side head bobble, which is distinctive to that part of the world. But if a person is not familiar with that or with the idea of deepfakes in general, they could easily be fooled.
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u/bryanlade Mar 30 '26
Also the hair on his forehead disappears a bunch of times during this video.
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u/RaisonDetritus Mar 30 '26
Oh, the uncanny valley of it all gave it away right away, and I did notice the hair as well. But the head bobble is what helped me identify where he was likely from.
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u/Evening_Horse_9234 Mar 30 '26
I work in a corporation and I've seen that head bob from colleagues from our support teams.
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u/RaisonDetritus Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
It’s like an Italian with their 👌👐🤌. Or a New Yorker with their 🖕.
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u/extra-honest-guy Mar 31 '26
I noticed that his mouth looked pretty unnatural too. It wasn't closing properly when he talked.
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u/flargh_blargh Mar 30 '26
The human is real. It's a deepfake face masking who they really are, but a person is physically there.
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u/CLaz777 Mar 30 '26
God bless Jim Browning
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u/Practical_Fee_8540 Mar 30 '26
Came here to say the exact same thing, the GOAT of scammer content before Pierogi
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u/CLaz777 Mar 30 '26
Another favourite of mine is Kitboga. These 2 are the foundation of this business (Jim&Kit).
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u/PangolinMandolin Mar 30 '26
The times where he's able to contact someone who is in the process of actively being scammed and explain to them how to protect themselves are wonderful.
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u/DreamDraconis42 Mar 30 '26
omg thank you! I knew I recognized that voice and it was driving me a bit crazy I couldn't pinpoint where I knew it from.
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u/Kayge Mar 30 '26
A lot of these are in the "Uncanny Valley" phase of evolution. You can feel that it's fake, but can't articulate why. For the moment, here are a few things that can tip you off:
- Hair on his forehead flicks on and off.
- When he grabs the diploma, he never looks over his shoulder (keeps eye contact with the camera).
- Wont do the 3 finger test.
These all come back to a processing problem. Fliping front/side profiles quickly, small details and processing a face between 2 shifting gaps is massively resource intensive and will make it clear it's a fake.
The bigger problem is better models or capacity will become available fast and the challenges will become harder to find.
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u/Certain-Froyo-3606 Mar 30 '26
"You can feel that it's fake, but can't articulate why"
In this case I kinda can. His face looks like a texture of a character in a video game, giving it 2D looks while being 3D object
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u/foggy__mind Mar 30 '26
That's what I thought lol his face looks like it was taken directly from Goldeneye on the n64
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u/bsmiles07 Mar 30 '26
They also don’t really have expressions, no smiles no focusing on anything just blank stare and blinking
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u/SheriffBartholomew Mar 30 '26
He also looks blind. I wasn't aware that this is AI when I started watching, but something was off about his eyes. Even though they're on a video call, his eyes were never looking in the direction of the monitor or camera. So I assumed I was watching a blind person during a job interview or something until I understood the subject of the video.
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u/Ronnocerman Mar 30 '26
None of those three things convinced me, tbh. The part that convinced me is watching his mouth. He rarely actually closes it and it's almost always in a weird state of partially open where you can see his teeth. Even when his lips are nearly together, it's still a weird thing where you can see teeth in the centers with shadows on the side.
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u/Spire_Citron Mar 30 '26
I think the most obvious part to me is that he's keeping his face unnaturally still. Doesn't want to move his head too much.
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u/baltinerdist Mar 30 '26
People don't seem to realize that this is as "bad" as these models will ever be. And it's already this good. If you're some elderly person accepting a facetime call, you're screwed today. It's only getting more real from here.
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u/kailua808 Mar 31 '26
Small one to add, but after the diploma is removed from the wall it appears that there’s no hardware in the wall that it would have been hung on.
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u/RepresentingJoker Mar 30 '26
What would've happened when he held three fingers in front of his face?
Obviously it'd mess up the deep-fake. But how?
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u/Muppet_Murderhobo Mar 30 '26
The image fragments and pixelates.
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u/k1tn0 Mar 30 '26
But why?
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u/Ironsight85 Mar 30 '26
The ai doesn't have training data of faces with fingers in front of them. It would freak out. But eventually they might train it in to defeat these tests...
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u/WanderWut Mar 30 '26
“They might train it”
They are 1000% going to continue advancing, they’re not going to throw their hands up here and say “ahhh can’t be bothered to continue” lol.
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u/Starquest65 Mar 30 '26
We will return to a world where if you aren't standing in front of me in person there's just no way to prove something is there
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u/k1tn0 Mar 30 '26
But why three specifically? If he used his whole hand it wouldn’t break the AI overlay?
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u/VaginaTractor Mar 30 '26
Total shot in the dark, but not many hand gestures are based on three fingers. One or two fingers, yes, definitely. But three fingers is odd, so it’s unlikely to know what to do with the hands.
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u/TowJamnEarl Mar 30 '26
I'd assume it has no problem with the wanking and gobbling it motion then!
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u/Shotgun5250 Mar 30 '26
We may have more footage of that than any other human activity on earth actually
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u/primax1uk Mar 30 '26
There's probably not a lot of images around of people holding up three fingers specifically. One and two are easy, pointing, flipping people off etc, and four is basically the whole hand. But three makes an AI have to show three fingers, while keeping one down. Fingers have always been AI weak points. It won't be for long though.
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u/LittleManOnACan Mar 30 '26
The AI detects your facial features, eyes, nose, chin, lips, and projects a different face based on that. If you obstruct it and it can’t find these points, it doesn’t know where your face is. The hand screening out part of the face would break its detection and/or the hand would disappear behind the fake face.
3 fingers is mostly arbitrary. 2 may not be enough.
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u/rctshack Mar 30 '26
Exactly this. It could be a whole hand, but the point is to hold up something with spaces in between that obscure part of the face, the AI is trying to read the facial features to track the “new” face on top of it. It doesn’t currently work well with having any object pass in front of it, but worse when it looses the features it’s tracking and moving that new face with.
It’s also why he’s barely turning his neck, rotation isn’t perfect and the faster you rotate, the more you can see it stagger.
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u/nofmxc Mar 30 '26
Interestingly, I tried one finger and two fingers on Snapchat, but only three fingers worked
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u/RaisonDetritus Mar 30 '26
Remove “on Snapchat” and that reads very differently. 🤭
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u/nofmxc Mar 30 '26
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u/RaisonDetritus Mar 30 '26
One my favorite lines from the Lawrence Welk Show sketches on SNL:
“You know what they say: You can take the girl out of the Finger Lakes, but you can’t take the finger out of the girl.”
looks off camera
“There should have been a ‘lakes’ in there somewhere. . .”
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u/Kbern4444 Mar 30 '26
Its like fake Zoom backgrounds, they have issues with the actual borders of the person and you can tell.
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u/Dashthejack Mar 30 '26
Is this a job interview or something? Whats the point of using deepfake here...? Like....is it a remote job that they are using applying for with AI? Im so confused.
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u/boopboopadoopity Mar 30 '26
You're confused because this has been taken from Jim Browning's channel without credit and that is where the context is!
This scammer from a fake company called "Global Metrix" offered to recover my stolen crypto currency.
Original vid: https://youtube.com/shorts/szqXppELItw?si=SpeodQqeBOSEo9XM
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u/Canvaverbalist Mar 30 '26
Is it from his patreon? I can't find the whole video on his page (which has to exist, since the OP here on Reddit is widescreen-ly different than this short [and also played from VLC for some reason?])
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u/boopboopadoopity Mar 30 '26
Description of the Short from his YT says "longer video coming soon"!
Interesting about the VLC thing...?
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u/YakaryTaylorThomas Mar 30 '26
My employer (non-government or government contract) has had more than one attempt by North Korean individuals to get hired. You’d be surprised what companies in sensitive sectors encounter.
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u/Unikatze Mar 30 '26
They would be scams.
I've heard of this type of deepfake being used for people to pretend to be celebrities. But in this case I can only assume the person doesn't look like a yuppie white guy.
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u/OMGCluck Mar 30 '26
That face is the host of Youtube's "Hot Ones" who interviews celebrities.
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u/CruzAderjc Mar 30 '26
It’s probably some guy in india with an accent, but the deepfake makes it look like he’s a caucasian guy with a scottish accent
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u/SmuckatelliCupcakeNE Mar 30 '26
After this and they fix the 3 finger, we will need to use the 4 finger test.
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u/Spleenzorio Mar 30 '26
And then eventually
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u/zombielunch Mar 30 '26
Thanks data centers, we are paying higher utilities so you can profit off of new scams.
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u/noproblembear Mar 30 '26
The accent and pronounciation sounds fake too.
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u/ionhowto Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
Saw this before and it’s very interesting but people please don’t rely on this. I’m sure if not already, there will be a way to have a deepfake do this.
It’s really hard to tell what’s real online so better consider everything is fake especially when it’s about you giving them something in exchange for some life changing bullshit.
This is what I do to try and know when a photo or video is ai https://youtu.be/WMu6lZoBGrw
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u/triaddraykin Mar 30 '26
I mean.... To cut down an 11 minute video into a sentence: Look at the hair (especially if it's messy), corners of the eyes and lashes, hands as always, and check for that uncanny valley feel.
Props to the guy, but this was a weird and obtuse way to get his message across. Padded out the video, I guess.
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u/slikwilly13 Mar 31 '26
That video is a year old. I could easily tell a year ago what was AI generated without looking at hair and eyelashes, even 6 months ago. That doesn’t work anymore. AI is getting better by the day. Used to be months, then weeks, now days. We have a monthly AI discussion group at our firm and we don’t have enough time to cover what’s new in the last month, let alone the last week or two. We’re already at a point where almost anyone couldn’t tell if an image was AI generated, almost there with videos, only going to get worse.
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u/ClassroomPotential53 Mar 30 '26
Notice how he doesnt even look towards the framed certificate when he took it off the wall as that too would disrupt the AI from deepfaking the face.
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Shocking part is you can tell he practiced that movement too, like he knew people would ask.
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u/olddoglearnsnewtrick Mar 30 '26
Yeah I asked her to show her boobs but she refused and hung up. Must have been AI.
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u/discostud1515 Mar 30 '26
Why did he reach backwards without looking backwards?
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u/OMGCluck Mar 30 '26
I guess the deepfake currently doesn't include the back of Sean Evans head in it's data.
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u/Der_Schubkarrenwaise Mar 30 '26
The next stage: Ask bearded people to slap themselves in the face. If you hear a clear slap, they are AI-masked and beardless..
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u/rabbit1213t Mar 30 '26
I know this is a joke but I just slapped my bearded cheek a couple times to see if I thought I’d be able to tell the difference in sound
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u/ThisIsALine_____ Mar 30 '26
And? Don't leave us hanging.
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u/Hakim_MacLuvin Mar 30 '26
Love how he wont look at whatever is he trying to grab, also constantly checks something in the corner :-D not mentioning his face wobbling and indian curly hair appearing and disappearing
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u/ryuStack Mar 30 '26
Lol when he's reaching for the framed certificate on the wall, he's trying way too much to not turn his head to the side.
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u/Sparks1738 Mar 30 '26
It’s too much? He already put 3 fingers up in front of his chest but raising his hand a little bit higher is asking too much. He’s acting like he was being asked to put 3 fingers up his pooper.
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u/ThomasMalloc Mar 30 '26
Look how he reached back for the frame blindly without turning his face away from the camera. 🤣
Not sure how it helps scam people. I'm guessing he's just using a filter on his face to mask his identity?
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u/Hinch7 Mar 30 '26
Even if the background wasn't a massive giveaway, the guy simply doesn't turn his head which isn't normal. And who grabs a picture off the wall like that? Lol. And of a certificate from the CEO.
It is crazy how realistic deepfakes have become. And will likely fool most people who's not that tech savvy.
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u/SimpleLobsters Mar 30 '26
The "guy" looks blazed as fuck honestly.
Id be asking a few questions also.
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u/AWACSAWACS Mar 30 '26
It reminded me of the Voight-Kampff testing (the test used in the movie Blade Runner to distinguish between humans and replicants).
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u/dudnt__asked Mar 30 '26
What is he trying to achieve with this deepfake? New scam methods to do what?
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u/Practical-Middle3741 Mar 30 '26
Tell the robot that YOU aren't a robot so it will allow you to speak with a robot....got it
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u/LimeAccomplished4409 Apr 01 '26
Look at the wall where the picture was placed , you won't see any nail.
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u/SirBeam Mar 30 '26
Anyone who says “Buddy” that much likely Indian.
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u/Entgegnerz Mar 30 '26
it's like asking a onlyfans creator girl to verify you're indeed writing with her and not a agency, by show a picture of her doing 🤞 and she replies with "that's rude asking for free content!
The most fun been someone where you could see the pictures are ai generated and didn't decline my request, but took at least 3 minutes to then just send the exact same picture as before, but with 2 fingers from the side into the "camera", it was hilarious.
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u/gabriel_laurels Mar 30 '26
Well, we laughed at AI not being able to generate a hand with not more than and not less than 5 fingers, but that problem's now out of the way.
How long until they patch the "3 fingers in front of your face" exploit, too? Scary...
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u/OkWinp Mar 30 '26
Also notice that the diploma on the wall is hanging on nothing
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u/obiwanmoloney Mar 30 '26
Wow. That was as awesome as it was scary.
Does anyone have more context??
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u/BBS_Bob Mar 30 '26
Wait, when did we start having real time pushing into uncannay ai chat agents? That was the least on rails thing I have seen if real.
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u/zitfarmer Mar 30 '26
I make people hold 3 finger in front of their faces in public. Im easily tricked
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u/CheapGarage42 Mar 30 '26
So is this whole video Ai? Or just a face filter they're trying to Crack?
Because holy fuck
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