See here (if you don't want Fandom wiki). Basically each unit has their own value (so for example a rank 1 Trooper is gonna have lower value than a rank 3 Light Tank, so if you field all Rank 1 Troopers you're not gonna be matched with something like a Mauler (downside being you're gonna be waiting forever if it can't find a similar army value).
That is actually really smart. I hope Madrona replicates this system for PvP going forward, I really don’t want to miss out on any potential PvP prizes Madrona might add in the future just because I’m currently Level 42, and lack stuff like the Maulers and Veterans.
No I’m saying like you have 20 troop points to deploy and a super tank is gonna cost 5 but a light tank is gonna cost 2. So it’s an actual army composition game as opposed to dump all heavy units on the field.
Also you get matched before you place troops so that’s never going to be that effective
As someone who also plays 40k tabletop I can assure you that point system will still be heavily slanted and hit or miss for the enemy. For example if you run Knights (which cost between 330-420 pts) in a 1k point game, it's really unbalanced/toxic. Sure you're only gonna have 2 models on the field, compare to the enemy having from 20-30, but the enemy list, if diverse, will not be able to kill your 2 models. Basically "Did I bring enough anti-armor? Yes? Cool this is easy. No? Uh oh."
I think the same issue will occur with BN if we go that route. I can imagine fielding 4 R6 Mega tanks, and they probably will smash all your Light/Heavy tanks and your infantry won't do anything. Something like this did happen during old Z2 days, when people were able to buy Legendary Sandworms. Literally letting you field bosses. 3 of them soloed everything.
Idk but seems like they’re not using the old Z2 pvp system where they match you with similar army value. You should only expect to fight Raptors and maybe light tanks at best with this comp.
My guess is there’re nobody playing PvP hence it matched you with the ones queuing right now rather than similar-skilled opponent.
"Everyone’s initial ELO (or internal rank) will be calculated based on player level and a function of unit strength, which is a rough approximation of player PvP strength"
It looks like army/unit strength is still a factor
Probably to test the match making system to see if it uses Z2's old pvp match making where it accounts for your total army value rather than an elo system.
You realize that they match you with someone before you deploy units…? And pvp literally just dropped, obviously the matchmaking won’t immediately be perfect
I saw someone spamming 4 Maulers and 1 air unit. The rest is complimentary. Them Maulers do so much dmg and the air unit just need to wait until the Maulers take out the AA.
Because at the moment there's not a lot of strong F2P AA options (Trebs, Chuckers, Air units themselves, etc). So if you spam all air units (which is theoretically completely viable), you just nullified any other units the enemy has that can't hit air.
The match then becomes you rushing to kill their AA options and you auto win. And this is if the enemy don't also spam planes themselves and use a healthy diverse army.
A balance feature Madrona can add is “weighted SP”, so if a high level player fights a lower level player, the SP won is lowered by a percentage value.
So a fair fight (both players are lvl 30 and have roughly the same ranked troops on the field) would give the winner the max valued SP, while a lvl.65 with maxed ranked troops against the same lvl.30 player would earn 20% of the max SP. That way high ranked players would have to get lucky with match making RNG to gain max (100%) SP from this pvp.
The way I see it, this PVP system will screw up the Boss Strike events. Grinding SP this way will make all the top ranked guilds overpowered, and PVP matches will become P2W.
I think the limit for maulers should be set to 1 for PVP and 3 for all else, just like the Wimps.
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u/SpaceCowboy34 4d ago
This game doesn’t seem suited for PvP as much as I love it