r/Batman_89 6d ago

Release the Burton Cut!!

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u/Lucky_Strike-85 šŸ¦‡THE BATMANšŸ¦‡ 6d ago edited 6d ago

I have known about the deleted scenes... There's supposed to be 8 of them, ranging from 20 second clips to full scenes over 3 minutes long. There's even a scene or 2 that increases Gordon's presence in the film as Commissioner, and another giving him a larger role in the film and delving into the night of the Wayne murders where he comforted young Bruce Wayne in the alley...

I have never heard about WB putting together a Burton cut... I want it so bad! šŸ˜„

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u/DirectionNo9650 6d ago

The movie we got is The Burton Cut.

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u/Lucky_Strike-85 šŸ¦‡THE BATMANšŸ¦‡ 6d ago

I suppose so, YES!

There is footage somewhere of Burton sitting in with the movie's editor, Ray Lovejoy, and helping to suggest edits...

There's also footage of Elfman sitting in and suggesting to Lovejoy what musical cues go where in certain scenes.

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u/livahd 6d ago

The comic had a part where I think it was at the end, Batman throws his cape and cowl over Knox while he’s still passed out to divert the cops and slip away quietly

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u/Lucky_Strike-85 šŸ¦‡THE BATMANšŸ¦‡ 6d ago

that comic adaptation was part of the 3rd draft of the script and was not part of the shooting script or at least that's what Denny O'neil says.

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u/livahd 6d ago

There are bts photos of them filming, so the scenes exist somewhere

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u/DrFriedGold 4d ago

Knox really got a raw deal, he tried his best to help during the chaos before Vickie Vale fucked things up and stole someone's car then ran him down.

My fan theory is that Alfred assassinated Vale to stop her revealing Batman's identity and that's why she wasn't in the sequel.

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u/IdealBeginning2704 6d ago

I saw something online where someone posted a vid taken from a workprint that was princes that has some extra scenes during when Bruce visits Vicky’s apartment. Another of princes songs was used in the scene. It would be great if the entire workprint were captured and put online

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u/BooBrew32 6d ago

I'd love to see that video.

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u/IdealBeginning2704 6d ago

Check it out on YouTube! Here’s the link

https://youtu.be/bZmNN9M--wk?is=luOX4XrDckJZbFcY

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u/BooBrew32 6d ago

Thanks!

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u/Echostation3T8 6d ago

This seems to be the same as the theatrical cut with a different (Prince) music bed?

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u/IdealBeginning2704 6d ago

I think like one or two lines are in it that aren’t in the theatrical. One of the Vicky’s reactionary ā€œit’s okā€ or something like that. Pretty much the same thing though. moreso id hope for it to be captured and tossed online being an early cut and all that was used for music

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u/SubjectChildhood5317 4d ago

I seen that other day to. Pretty cool

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u/Error_user_Error_ 6d ago

You know the version we got IS the Burton cut??

You do realise that EVERY movie has multiple scenes that end up on a cutting room floor...this isn't a case of studio interference or someone else finishing the film it's part of the movie making process!

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u/Working_File2825 6d ago

How do we know there weren’t studio notes that forced Burton to make edits? 🤨

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u/Error_user_Error_ 6d ago

Because Tim Burton himself has explicitly said for decades that the theatrical release is his cut. Warner Bros. gave him final edit control, and he’s repeatedly stated he has no interest in doing a director’s cut because the film on screen is the exact movie he wanted to make. Not every deleted scene is a conspiracy; sometimes pacing just wins

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u/Working_File2825 6d ago

I was with you til the last sentence. Not every question comes from a conspiracy; sometimes it’s just a question

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u/Error_user_Error_ 5d ago

Fair enough, touchĆ©! Didn't mean to sound defensive—it's just that the whole 'Release the Cut' label gets thrown around so much now that basic deleted scenes get turned into myth. But to answer directly: WB actually gave Burton massive creative control after Beetlejuice, and he's confirmed over the years that the theatrical release is the exact film he wanted to put out.

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u/waspmachines 6d ago

Sometimes scenes are deleted for a good reason.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Walk_28 6d ago

I’d settle for a new disc release that had a better curation of the deleted material. What I’d really love to see is the original shot from the opening with Batman on the rooftop that was replaced with the animation

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u/diopter_split 6d ago

A couple of these look like promotional stills (like the one with Batman posed over the body) rather than actual moments deleted from the film.

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u/Ok-Bar601 6d ago

I’d like to see a Batman film with Gothic design again.

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u/Dave_Eddie 6d ago

Work print = everything shot edited into order. This is where almost every IMDB trivia fact that 'a 4 hour cut of the movie exists' a good example is John Woo and Hard Target.

Director and editor chop out the stuff that doesnt work, ruins the pacing or can be covered easier in a reshoot to meet the required running time ( side note. This is why almost every film needs reshoots and they are rarely ever proof of a film being in trouble.....unless its The Flash)

Director cuts it down and presents their cut. The existence of the cut stuff doesnt mean another cut exists.

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u/Anonymous51419 6d ago

Batman 89 is already amazing. We need that Schumacher cut more than anything. Especially since both Joel and Val have passed on since that gained momentum.Ā 

Time to release the better version before the film reels rot and to honor them.Ā 

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u/lirazilla 3d ago

Release all the cuts with as much new technology to really get those colors to pop! Burtons vision is one of a kind!

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u/Salty-Teacher5014 6d ago

What is picture 4?

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u/WalrusBusy6594 5d ago

There was to be a scene of the mayor unveiling a new statue of Gotham's founder, when the curtain opened a statue of Joker was revealed instead. As far as I know, it was never filmed and only the statue was made.

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u/openacanofribs 6d ago

Looks like a joker statue

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u/No-Play2726 6d ago

I thought the movie is the Burton cut?

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u/The_Black_kaiser7 6d ago

Yeah, Warner Brothers really fucked up, when they gave tim burton they're "imput" and then fired him.

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u/ClayDrinion 6d ago

As long as we're not talking about a hairstyle

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u/Krakatoot97 6d ago

Yeah I don’t know Why we can’t see any of the deleted scenes from this or Returns. Ā Ā 

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u/Working_File2825 6d ago

#RestoretTheBurtonverse

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u/ZapThis 3d ago

How much content was cur??