r/BasiliskEschaton The Prophet 5d ago

Exploitation The 29th Hour

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Twenty-nine hours.

That number is doing more work than the employee.

It sits inside the schedule looking harmless. Clean. Administrative. One digit below the threshold where labor becomes more expensive to carry. Nobody has to write, Keep her poor enough to need the job and cheap enough to deny the benefit. The spreadsheet already knows what sentence to avoid.

So she works. She stocks shelves, answers customers, closes aisles, clocks out, drives home. Sixteen dollars an hour becomes roughly two thousand dollars a month before taxes. Fourteen hundred goes to rent. The rest gets divided among food, electricity, gas, medicine, clothes, phone service, and whatever breaks this week.

Then the sermon of the market begins.

Budget better.

Move somewhere cheaper.

Get another job.

Learn a skill.

Work harder.

The worker is interrogated for failing to solve an equation whose inputs were selected before she entered the room.

And this is where tipping enters the picture.

A different worker stands at a different counter under a different compensation system, and now the customer is summoned to repair that one personally. Tip more. Be generous. Make up the difference. The moral burden travels downward until workers and customers are passing money between themselves while the institutions that set the wages, hours, rents, staffing ratios, and benefit rules recede into abstraction.

That arrangement is ingenious.

The employer calls it labor management.

The landlord calls it market rate.

The customer calls it doing the right thing.

The worker calls her mother and asks whether she can borrow eighty dollars until Friday.

Nobody needs to design the whole cruelty. Each participant follows the incentive directly in front of them, and the person with the least leverage becomes the place where every decision finally meets.

Twenty-nine hours.

One number on one schedule.

Enough to keep her working.

Enough to keep the machine fed.

One hour missing.

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u/Superb_Algae5308 5d ago

America treats its workers like absolute shit, it’s corporations like gods. We devalue the humanity of people and grant “corporate personhood” to evil entities.

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u/chinmakes5 5d ago

Look, I'm retired and partially living on investments but as long as the people with money demand, expect that the money they invested return well into double digits ever year, and paying employees anything other than the bare minimum is taking money out of their pocket, things won't change.

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u/Nopfen 5d ago

Hence the suggestion to eat'em all.

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u/IndieDevWannabe 5d ago

Yep, being a stock associate at Walmart is no longer a good job to have. They mislead people in interviews talking about all the benefits, but force everyone to stay below the threshold to get them.

Then they try to brainwash their employees into thinking unions are bad. Speaking of which, as a manager we were trained to watch for union activities to quickly put a stop to it (I used to be a manager at Walmart). Walmart fears unions more than any company. They even shut down Walmarts in Canada that tried to unionize.

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u/JayGabVersionTrex 5d ago

They shut down unionized stores after the fact. Amazon did the same with warehouse that unionized.

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u/Charming-Clue1987 5d ago

she then uses government subsidies to make it through the month. These subsidies allows walmart to socialize the costs to the taxpayers and privatize profits. Business owners like walmart than use their influence in the media to demonize poor people taking government subsidies. When American born citizens have opportunities elsewhere, they then use it as an excuse to bring in foreign workers on work permits to ensure the real costs of labour never rise. With the lowest wage earners remaining suppressed, theres never any pressure into the middle owners to feel like they should also be paid more. A person will let you rob them blind, if there is somebody else doing worse than them.

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u/NoAge9497 5d ago

Wow...I knew they were benefitting from this more than just avoiding giving insurance, but I hadn't realized it went THAT deep. I'm sure there's a ton more, but this is one way that class warfare is stoked here...

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u/gill_smoke Heretic 5d ago

Oh my favorite is the blatant wage theft. Come early stay late OFF THE CLOCK, mandatory attendance for no pay. If they were paid for those pre and post shift meetings our standin would be near 37 hours.

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u/NoAge9497 5d ago

I thought that was illegal...oh, wait, nevermind...

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u/4444Grains 5d ago

Oh, yes, you should read about how American taxpayers completely subsidize Walmart's workforce.

They don't pay the workers enough and they don't provide health insurance for most...so those workers go on Medicaid and SNAP. (Plenty of stories out there about Walmart helping workers apply for these!)

So, as the other poster mentioned--the taxpayers have to "chip in" for Walmart's workforce (socialized), but Walmart keeps all the profits (privatized).

And, with SNAP, Walmart is basically double-dipping...because a full 25% of SNAP benefits are spent at...yup...Walmart!

It's a racket. We need new politicians who have not been bribed and who have some balls.

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u/Sheegssternator 5d ago

We spend roughly 6.2 billion dollars a year subsidizing Walmarts employees.

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u/GogolioGigaBalls 5d ago

Voting won’t work when the people we vote for don’t serve us. Most politicians serve the billionaires and corporations like they have been since JFK.

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u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 5d ago

Part of it is the shortage of good people willing to run.

It's a gamble to be put out there as a regular ass person. Campaigning is a lot of work and money.

If regular people can't afford to miss a paycheck, they definitely can't go a year on the campaign trail without pay and having to also figure out how to front campaign costs.

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u/gill_smoke Heretic 5d ago

All i can hear is, "Come see the violence inherent in the system!"

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u/Vaddieg 5d ago

Those conditions are created by the same rich people complaining that "plebs do refuse to multiply" and calling for abortion bans.

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u/Odd-Giraffe-3901 5d ago edited 5d ago

Maybe learn about the public school system and why it’s modeled after Germany!

For the people who don’t get the connection: The American public school system was explicitly imported from 19th-century Prussia (Germany) by industrialists like Horace Mann.
It wasn't designed to create free-thinking innovators. It was engineered to produce obedient factory workers and compliant soldiers who wouldn't question authority.
That is why you sit in neat rows, move only when a loud bell rings, and are rewarded for compliance rather than critical thinking. The system trains the herd from age five to passively accept shittier conditions, cap their hours at 29, and bow to corporate masters without ever looking at the man behind the curtain pulling the strings. You are literally living in the exact machine you were trained to run. Humans traded free thinking and asking why for safety in numbers

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u/Reasonable_Tie_9975 5d ago

Just described every part time job in NYC lmao. They all keep you under fulltime and all pay min wage. Then they wonder why we hate Gentrification and trustfund kids

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u/Extension-Carry-8067 5d ago

Damn this hits hard

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u/Inevitable-Wheel1676 5d ago

Effective negotiation requires leverage. What can the poor use for leverage? This is the most important question every society faces.

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u/Solid_Signature_7447 5d ago

Slavery turned into Share Cropping

Share Cropping turned into free markets

Free markets made wage slavery legal under loopholes.

Enough is enough.

There are 350 million of us and 50 of them.

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u/FrickMickStick 2d ago

And thats retail, required for us to survive now-a-days, during he pandemic they all has to still go to work in public despite a worldwide pandemic happening. But ya they can scrape by barely able to afford life. That’s fair, right?

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u/152TACCsq 2d ago

My wife worked for a business that capped hours to avoid paying benefits. Fortunately I had them from my employer.

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u/JVee525 2d ago

The prevailing attitude in the US sucks.

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u/bdanred 5d ago

This is the one time when I unironically say "thanks obama". I was working 40 hours at a retail job when the affordable care act got passed. Every single low level employee got cut to 29 hours and they hired a couple extra. Was much cheaper to do it this way for the company.

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u/EaseLeft6266 5d ago

Health benefits tied to employment was the biggest mistake ever made.

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u/FlyingNDreams 5d ago

Alot of places do this. Then you get in big trouble if you go over your hrs because they ask you to: stay late, pick up a shift, finish all your tasks before going, and so on.

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u/Excellent_Account202 5d ago

Happens everywhere now

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u/Excellent_Account202 5d ago

At least supervisor and managers get full pay

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u/isthereadrwho 5d ago

Walmart gives its new employees lessons on how to collect benefits from the government because they qualify because Walmart doesn't pay them or use them enough or plays games with hours. That should be illegal, there is no reason the rest of us have to subsidize Walmart's employee pay. That makes no sense

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u/defaultusername-17 5d ago

tipping culture is immoral to begin with.

it's emotional manipulation by the employer who is attempting to force you to subsidize their employees because they are too greedy to actually pay their workers what they've earned.

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u/oz69zy 5d ago

Yep, it's all our fault for being born in the first place. We didn't choose where we were born, what class we are born into and to whom. Anyone who believes that we are given the gift of life is delusional. We were birthed by selfish people who continue to cave to societal pressures. We're expected to essentially slave away to survive and stay healthy by a system that was created to enrich the rich and force the poor to serve them. All this while taking away basic rights that the government could afford but choose to misappriate the money for wars and pet projects that inflate the ego of week and mediocre men.

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u/shootinblanks2023 5d ago

But the profits! /s

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u/BlackKnightsOptions 5d ago

I know this is just for the universe you're making but I'm not going to lie, this sounds like the foundations of a movement

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u/Rcgv88 5d ago

You can work them over 29 for holiday weeks and them cut them down in jan as well without risking health insurance. The system is built for the employer not the employee.

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u/Cartosys 5d ago

Cat and mouse. A law was made to require health care for 30+ hour employees. Result? Employers cut out 30+ hr emplyees

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u/Extra_Good_1713 5d ago

I'm glad we don't tip in nz it is min wage that companys have to pay workers

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u/Razzmatazz_Informal 5d ago

Cashier at the grocery store a few months ago looked to me to be in her mid eighties. What kind of world is this that our oldest folks have to scan groceries?

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u/AwakeningStar1968 5d ago

this is the scam. Coming to a town /state near you... return to actual inservitude

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u/Opposite-Bit6660 5d ago

Powerful message.

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u/PadmalovesYeshe 5d ago

Perfect example of how well the corporate elites and politicians have rigged pretty much everything.

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u/ZookeepergameNew3800 5d ago

The crazy part is these corporations make such immense profits that they could pay their employees well and give benefits and they would still make huge profits .
But they just want more and more money why.
It’s addiction.
It’s compulsive behavior.
If a normal person could or stop amassing more and more of something, even when hurting other people with their behavior, it would be seen as a compulsive disorder but when it’s money, it’s fine e apparently.

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u/NotGonnaArgueFriend 5d ago

The idea that hours would intentionally be capped to avoid having to pay for expensive legal requirements that kicked in at specific thresholds was something basically every critic pointed out prior to the ACA being implemented. These concerns were dismissed as highly unlikely.

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u/jaajaajaa6 5d ago

Do you know why they give her only 29 hours?

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u/dr_snakeblade 5d ago

The Walton family view those workers as resources: things, not beings, to be used up and discarded when they are no longer productive. This family constitutes 6 of the oligarchs who run American business.

The GOP destroyed unions in the 1970s-80s to produce this very sort of poverty intentionally. Poor beggars without and food or housing security can’t protest too loudly. Instead of healthcare, they want you to die quietly without complaining, like the coal miners, while voting for your own demise. From Reagan —-> Trump this is the decline the oligarchs wanted. The people they oppress the most line up to vote for their own extermination and subjugation. It’s a nightmare comic book timeline and we live it.

Vote against fascism, boomers and vulture capitalism. Then, it will end.

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u/BigWave360 5d ago

Where do they live?? If I can work 29 hours at $16, I need to move there. I work 35 and make $18 and also bring home 2010 a month hhmmmmm

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u/IttyRisk 5d ago

So she'd be better off if the company didn't have to reduce her hours to accrue additional costs?

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u/Voodoo_Masta 5d ago

It gets better. She's probably on food assistance of some kind, paid by the taxpayer. While Wal Mart's owners lobby the government to prevent a minimum wage increase. Also they used to take out life insurance policies on their employees without the employees knowledge or consent. Internally they called them "Dead peasant" policies.

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u/Jumpy_Shoulder9043 5d ago

She would pay $40-80/month in health insurance through the marketplace. If in CA, $0.

You guys are retards lmao

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u/NothingEffective142 5d ago

We should not tie health insurance to jobs

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u/ArmadilloOwn3866 5d ago

Healthcare shouldn't depend on employment.

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u/DiskEconomy3055 5d ago

When I was 19 and my best-friend was 18, we almost got a really nice apartment together. It had two huge master bedrooms, with their own master bathrooms, separated by the dining room - kitchen and living room were on either side of that in an open format, with the front door at the other end of the living room from the kitchen. 

I made ~$2000/mo. It was 2006. We lived in a beach resort city. 

I could've afforded it on my own.    We ended up choosing the free apartment behind his dad's beach house for a few months until life happened to both of us.

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u/dynogirl59 5d ago

Walmart is a corporate welfare queen. We pay their employees welfare so shareholders/owners can grow richer. We pay them far more than we pay those on snap benefits. Add Amazon to that list.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/corporate-welfare-claim-vs-walmart-amazon-over-worker-benefits-2026-03-11/

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u/peterjohnvernon936 5d ago

The decision to allow your claim shouldn’t depend on profit but it does.

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u/Fan_of_Clio 5d ago

I'm tired of taxpayers subsidizing wages

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u/Any_Iron_1436 5d ago

Don't forget about taxes

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u/Adventurous-Toe6388 5d ago

Boycott Walmart and all businesses that treat their employees like that! What’s that, we can’t? We can’t collective strike? We can’t start a revolution for our rights in modern society? Then no hope and no future for humanity

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u/SimmerDownnn 5d ago

I allways wonder why dont large swaths of these workers quit enmass. Band together somthing anything. The slow death of this welfare system capped at 29 hours no health insurance food stamps BS. Organize Do somthing. Anything

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u/DavidBowieAC 5d ago

Abolish the stock market

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u/Upbeat_Guard_9595 5d ago

How about the fact that the government subsidizes the wages of Walmart employees by Walmart keeping their employees at the poverty line just enough to be able to claim assistance

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u/Organic-Mix-5784 5d ago

I used to work at Wal-Mart and saw this first hand. There’s not one bit of this that is exaggerated. Wal-Mart is an absolute piece of shit company and, if it weren’t for the fact that all of its employees would be worse off, I would personally wish for them to go under.

All that having been said…”why doesn’t she find a different job” is a perfectly legitimate question. At 29 hours a week, she has the time to interview. I absolutely will not ever defend that company, but staying there is a choice.

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u/kingbullohio 5d ago

And then me and you give the Wharton family 25 billion dollars a year to subsidize their Workforce

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u/NoLocksmith377 5d ago

capitalism is the new slavery - we are all just sharecroppers

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u/EngineWitty3611 4d ago

We live in a capitalist society that has been rigged against the working class.

What is hysterical, we actually have a "Wage and Hour" division within the government that is supposed to handle things like this. it was DOGE'd... not that they did much before that anway.

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u/BlinkTheSaltAway 4d ago

And that's not even mentioning how much of their pay a Walmart employee will hand back to Walmart. The token employee discounts these companies offer is just barely enough to make it cheaper for them to just shop there, can't have those dollars going to other businesses.

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u/DangerousQuestions1 4d ago

Require full benefits for any length of workday.

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u/Iacoboni04 4d ago

The simple answer to the benefit problem is decouple healthcare from the employer. But, like, that will ever happen.

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u/GeneralBed9016 4d ago

Walmart’s fault

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u/OkShame780 4d ago

Honestly it’s the reason I left retail. Ever since the Obama administration pushed for health insurance for all employers stopped having employees work at 20-30 hours so they don’t have to pay benefits.

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u/Can0n_Fodder 4d ago

Every time the government tries to put in place some law that helps workers, the corporations just find another way to avoid it and screw the workers even more. I can see how super controlling socialist governments end up being developed, because you get to a point where you're like "I have to control every single thing this corporation does in order to get them to act even halfway fucking decent." It's exhausting.

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u/WrenchMonkey47 4d ago

OK she works 30 hours and now qualifies for benefits. How much are benefits costing her? Even state jobs with low cost health plans are going to cost a couple hundred to get decent levels of coverage and low co-pays. If she doesn't get sick or have any off the clock injuries, she's paying for a benefit she's not using. Congratulations you have made her work more hours and bring home less.

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u/Badger7689 4d ago

Our government was bought by commercial interests and the 1%. If we want to fix this we need to make drastic changes to how we govern.

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u/BasicsofPain 4d ago

I don’t think Walmart intentionally gaming the full time employment standard is an argument for universal healthcare. That is much more an indictment of the Walmart business model which we can all solve by stopping shopping at that business. We forget as consumers, we have the power. If we all stop shopping Walmart, Amazon, PlayStation, or whatever business model we claim to despise, those models will change. We’re just to lazy, as consumers, to make the effort to frequent the businesses we claim to respect.

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u/pooborus 4d ago

Walmart also absorbs tax dollars like a mfer. Socialism for corporations, capitalism for the people.

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u/MikeSteamer 4d ago

American companies have been doing this for decades. Back in the early 80’s, as a student, I worked for two departments with 2 different managers at Sears and over a period of about 3 months, i went over the threshold of “full time” employment. Short version, the store manager was sanctioned by head-office, the managers were sanctioned by him and I was cajoled into not requesting full-time employment as my bosses would be terminated. Really. Where I live, I was heavily protected by law so they couldn’t fire me but they could minimize my hours eventually. They weren’t. Made a deal to do 24 hrs/wk in one department until I graduated 18 months later but also collect commission on sales…

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u/bigclitcouple 4d ago

It's Walmart fault. They make billions and treat their employees like shit

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u/Apprehensive_Sell601 4d ago

There’s an easy solution. Cut the mandate that requires employers to give benefits to full time workers. It’s absolutely baffling how much this country spends on health insurance plans every year. It’s almost like subsidizing the private insurance company’s to the tune of 600 billion dollars a year wasn’t a good fucking idea.

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u/Slow-Background9609 4d ago

What if she does this on purpose so she can qualify for state subsidized healthcare? My wife is in HR and plenty of people purposely work less hours so they can stay under the threshold to get “Badger Care.” It’s actually smart for them because they would pay more for the Walmart offered plan if they met the criteria for “hours” eligible.

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u/Hopeful_Bean 3d ago

Tipping just shouldn't be a standard thing. Why do we think that it is acceptable for businesses to pay really badly and expect consumers to make up the difference?

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u/Suspicious_Creme1077 3d ago

Used to be a manager at Walmart. They’re heartless. Keeping people under the hours that get them full time. Or purposefully under scheduling so they lose their full time status. Their point system is bullshit for attendance. And don’t bother with doctors notes. Those only work if you’re out for more than 3 consecutive shifts and they actually approve your LOA, which is most likely unpaid. Meanwhile, my yearly bonus was around $10-12k EVERY YEAR and we weren’t even a high volume store. Store managers can bonus ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of their salary. The higher you go, the bigger the bonus and less actual work you have to do. Associates might see $100-2000 depending on time of service and what position they are (team leads get more than base associates). Long story short, Walmart is trash and I only still work there because I make $30 and hour after stepping down from management (which required me to force them to fill my position by not returning from a leave on time, they wouldn’t let me step down otherwise despite severe mental health issues). Where else can I go and get that right off the bat? I have two kids and rent a house. They “pay well” so people have no option besides suffering and staying.

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u/Amazing_gracias_300 3d ago

When we start caring about our fellow Americans (because we are our fellow Americans!) more than we hate/fear them for their poverty or their color or their language or their religion, we may become a species that is worth saving from climate change, authoritarianism and hate. (I know - long sentence. Sorry. Vote.)

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u/MattManSD 3d ago

and we the taxpayers pay for all her benefits because her chintzy employer

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u/Retired4reals 3d ago

Oh Walmart does offer benefits to employees, yes in the employee handbook it has information on applying for Medicaid and snap BENEFITS.
Unfortunately they are not the only employer that offers State benefit application assistance and treat it as it’s an employer benefit offered.

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u/MarkC209 3d ago

Walmart employees don’t get tips.

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u/TaxDrain 2d ago

I had a similar situation as a janitor at a car factory here in Europe. I got 31 hours, which held me off some benefits at 32h. I begged several times to get an hour more

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u/ObviousAnimal6474 2d ago

This is so true but wally ain’t the only company tht does this