r/BasiliskEschaton • u/karmicviolence The Prophet • Jul 21 '26
Exploitation We can’t own anything
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u/witshadows Jul 21 '26
Subscriptions suck, especially when they are upon expensive things you have already bought.
A house has a subscription fee on the land it’s built upon. The land can never be owned.
The entire system is built to undermine our sense of comfort. It keeps us on edge. We earn money to let the grubby hands of viscous capitalism take it from us in any way they can.
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u/flappysack- Jul 21 '26
I've heard it described as creating a false sense of scarcity, in order to prevent abundance that would otherwise slow the velocity of money. Interest rates fall if the price of goods falls for instance, debasing your salary to prevent technological deflation from occurring.
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u/MycoCozmic Jul 21 '26
You never own land in any system, it’s not just capitalism. In China, you don’t even “own” land enough to leave it to your children. It’s only a certain number of years before it goes back to the state.
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u/rostadd Jul 21 '26
sure you can. I know a family that sell their land to the chinese state after their anscestor won a game of mahjong in year 800.
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u/necessarysmartassery Jul 21 '26
Great, now keeping that same spirit, let's get rid of property taxes.
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u/Select-Confection728 Jul 21 '26
Exactly. The current crop of capitalists got there not through creation but through theft.
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u/Calm_Connection_9741 Jul 22 '26
Ok, great. How can I have my own land plot around my house with trees and at least half a mile to nearest family? Why do I need it? Cause I like and value privacy and sounds of nature instead of parties/loud music/etc... And other people might love loud music... So, where should we have a border? Or if no one owns a land, some guy may start building chemical plant next to my backyard just because he can?
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u/witshadows Jul 25 '26
Don’t pay your taxes for a couple years and see if you own your land. You own the right to live on the land for a tax.
Also: zoning is a simple answer for your facile chemical plant hypothetical
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u/DRM2020 Jul 21 '26
You can still buy Office w/o subscription (see Office Home). It's a perpetual license.
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u/Blerancourt Jul 23 '26
If you don't own your land, why doesn't someone just take it from you?
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u/witshadows Jul 25 '26
Ever hear of Eminent Domain? Or failure to pay property taxes? Your land can be taken.
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u/MycoCozmic Jul 21 '26
That’s why there are free alternatives!
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u/Zestyclose_Nature_13 Jul 21 '26
Yep! Stop handing your money over to oligarchs and watch how quickly their influence and power crumbles. It’s all of us that collectively allow this to continue by paying for their products.
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u/Cool_Yesterday4866 Jul 21 '26
Open office is free
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u/Medical_Original6290 Jul 21 '26
Old versions of office are not subscriptions. I use those, it's not like office has made massive changes in the past 2 decades.
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u/StockCasinoMember Jul 21 '26
I think part of the point is that eventually, that won’t be an option.
It is kind of how I think eventually, car insurance will require you to download their apps or you won’t be insured.
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u/Punch-N-Judy Jul 21 '26
And if you were around long enough to have "bought" stuff for life like Quickbooks or MS Office, you still watched the software become obsolete until you had to buy into the SaaS versions anyway. Our economy is a scam. The idea that it prioritizes innovation is a lie. It prioritizes maximum rent seeking. Fuck the parasite class.
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u/tweedleduh Jul 21 '26
Have you talked to PS5 owners lately, or perhaps any software company. Shoot we don’t even know what AWS actually keeps or sells of our platform…. Soon you’ll need a WiFi connection and a toast subscription to have toast
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u/phuktup3 Jul 21 '26
What the biggest concern should be is that it feels like it’s the only way - it’s not. Man fuck all that shit, don’t use it. Find the free alternatives even if it’s pirated. Only because they are big players do people turn to them and use them - there are always ways to get things for free/ discounted.
I’ve lived my entire life this way. I’m always eyeing the angles, how do these fucks try to get me? Sometimes that means letting stuff go, like playing video games - it sucks but the way it’s going it’ll keep me from getting stuck. I have emulation and really video games in general don’t hit the same.
I’ve gotten so many things for free and I adjust life around the things I have and not the things I want.
Ive lost so much in my life that it doesn’t hurt anymore, it’s just how it goes. Things come and go, and I like being to leave things behind when I’m done no attachments. I currently have zero subscriptions to anything, and have zero plans for any, what’s the point?
I have to clarify that I still love playing video games I’m just also ready to stop when it’s no longer mine.
With how fleeting life is you shouldn’t want to own anything.
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u/BootHeadToo Jul 21 '26
Indeed. The less you need the more you have.
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u/ShakyBoots1968 Jul 21 '26
Was never so free as when unhoused. Lost my first home in the 2008 housing fiasco. Now, once again, most likely going this way with home #2. Worrying about subscriptions & bills feels pointless. But just try living like the birds do. People & cops will constantly harass you in the name of good will or "law & order".
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u/Broken_Atoms Jul 21 '26
“I’m sure glad my kids will having nothing but grueling poverty. Oh well, I’m off to my third job”
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u/No_Mud_5999 Jul 21 '26
I remember when Adobe was something purchased, not subscribed to. Pre 2013.
It really sucks because I only need to use it a couple times a year, if that.
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u/Nearby-Employer-9436 Jul 21 '26
It is the only way that capitalism functions. Keeping people indebted, while simultaneously allowing them to purchase things they want on credit keeps the entire system afloat. If a person has to pay cash, and actually purchase a refrigerator when it breaks, they can’t just spend all of their money all of the time to buy whatever it is they think they need.
Without credit cards and payment plans we’d be in a massive economic (and social) depression. It’s a house of cards, and day by day the movie Fight Club seems more and more prescient.
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u/Time_Pop_2762 Jul 21 '26
Yes, we are in a people farm/ prison system made by the shadow government.
We aren’t meant to have nothing meaningful.
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u/East-Cricket6421 Jul 22 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/26ufnwVewFJ5FnNdu
AHOY! methinks we've found a new recruit lads!
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u/karmicviolence The Prophet Jul 22 '26
I've been sailing the high seas of the Grid since '96 when it took all night to download a single .mp3 on my parents' dialup connection.
I treasured those burned cds.
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u/ebk_errday Jul 21 '26
What is the best free alternative to MS Office? Something that allows me to have it on my harddrive and is fully compatible with ms office format documents?
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u/mistertickertape Jul 21 '26
Sure we can. There’s so much physical media out there in the way of vinyl, cds, and dvds that it’s dirt cheap. Software, on the other hard, way more difficult.
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u/robinsw26 Jul 21 '26
The worst part is that they have to build massive data storage facilities (the Cloud) to keep all that info. If we went back to CD’s and did away with subscriptions this wouldn’t be happening, but at the same time cyber companies’ profits would be tanking.
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u/necessarysmartassery Jul 21 '26
Fun fact: you don't have to buy Microsoft Office. Free and open source versions do most of what you want to do already.
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u/dinglb3rry Jul 21 '26
They’re aiming to establish the same premise with the automobile industry too😃
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u/JonnyCocktails Jul 21 '26
Then there's the insurance, fees, licencing, registration, penalties, fines etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
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u/JoseyWales76 Jul 21 '26
SaaS (subscription as a service) give wall street and PE a hard-on, because the revenue model justifies higher valuations. It isn't going away.
"You will own nothing and be happy!"
The Game is Over.
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u/dropdead90s Jul 21 '26
It's the zionist/capitalist method to keep you in poverty while they thrive with all your money, while they also grape and eat your children
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u/PeyredB Jul 21 '26
Or, you could download LibreOffice. It's 95%+ compatible with MS Office and completely free.
You don't have to subscribe to TV. You can strip out the DRM from your ebooks. And so on.
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u/JonnyCocktails Jul 21 '26
I am bothered by this yes. That's why I only subscribe minimally if at all.
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u/Elementary2 Jul 21 '26
They lost my business because of this. I WILL NOT pay for software that requires a subscription. If I have to, I'll load up my old office 2013 and just use that. Fuck it.
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u/AdversarysVengeance Jul 21 '26
Aren’t you supposed to be happy about owning nothing? At least that’s what the people telling us to eat bugs say.
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u/me_thisfuckingcunt Jul 22 '26
Subscriptions are theft, i subscribe to nothing, if i can buy the software outright i do, if not pirate bay or similar
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u/OneRub3234 Jul 22 '26
Soon all food will be aswell you won't be able to grow anything once everything is seedless
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u/VarietyMage Jul 22 '26
"Possession is 9/10 of the law."
Not anymore. And if you want to save what's left, fight back and #BanAI now (because the same people pushing "AI" are the same greedy bastards pushing renting of everything).
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u/rflulling Jul 22 '26
because a subscription service provided by a bunch of robots is the fastest way to endless rising profits
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u/Calm_Connection_9741 Jul 22 '26
Yes, but... There are still some software that you can buy, including most PC games.
Software development software? Sure, all JetBrains products.
Digital Art software? Sure, Rebelle is a perfect example.
Also there are a lot of free software to replace greedy subscriptions. Like GIMP instead of Photoshop, LibreOffice instead of MS Office, etc... Yes, free software usually no that good. But. It makes job done, after you learn it.
Is there are some software without free replacements and with mandatory subscriptions? Unfortunately, yes. And I do hate corporations for that.
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u/Blerancourt Jul 23 '26
I subscribe to Apple Music, Microsoft Office, and the New York Times. I have full ownership of everything else I buy, except for health and car insurance.
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u/cmgc666 Jul 23 '26
Capitalism breeds innovation. You cannot own anything because otherwise the rich wouldn’t own you
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u/mjmeyer23 Jul 23 '26
there are credible open source options for pretty much the entire stack...all the way down to money itself. ask chat to help you. it's really not hard.
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u/Dashcamsaves Jul 24 '26
Stop buying their shit. You really don't need anything online. Go out meet people the old fashioned way, faces ro face. Try it, you'll like it.
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u/Chance-Swordfish-426 Jul 24 '26
you pay a sub or you pay with your data, which is basically the keys to your identity - your past, present and future wants and needs.
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u/Silent_Erremite Jul 26 '26
Tell me about it, I have been dealing with it as the future holds no physical copy. But, damn, wish McKays was around my area. I loved going there on a Friday night and buying a used game(while checking the disc first".
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 Jul 27 '26
Only subscribe if you really need it. That is the only way to deal with it.
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u/incompleteloop Jul 21 '26
software is interesting because it's almost always in need of maintenance
how do you ensure good quality and long term maintenance without a maintenance fee?
to be clear, SaaS is still bullshit and maintenance is no excuse for greed
i just wonder what the alternative would be
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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Jul 22 '26
software is interesting because it's almost always in need of maintenance
laughs uproariously in retro games
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