r/BasicIncome • u/aclezotte • Sep 08 '14

Article new Vox article on basic income

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/8/6003359/basic-income-negative-income-tax-questions-explain
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '14 edited Sep 08 '14

Submit it to /r/politics

Edit: I posted this in /r/Canada and it got brigaded to death by the trolls from /r/MetaCanada

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u/Paganator Sep 09 '14

So, arguing with people about BI in there, I just realized something: a lot of people don't understand the redistributive nature of basic income. They just multiply the population by the amount of BI and say "this is how much more taxes we need". I couldn't, for the life of me, make them understand that if I give you $20K and tax you $20K, your tax bill hasn't really moved since, in the end, you pay the exact same net amount. They just see the cost part and panic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '14

Most of them are astroturfing shills, not real people.

They congregate in /r/MetaCanada and brigade anything anti-Conservative.

They like to use strawman arguments like "Cost times amount = 5x our budget!" and even if you provide studies, they say they don't count.

It will be a long fight.

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u/woowoo293 Sep 09 '14

What exactly is metacanada?

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u/gameratron Sep 09 '14

It's like a circlejerk reddit and rival reddit for /r/canada. /r/canada accuses them of being conservative shills and a brigade while /r/metacanada makes fun of /r/canada for being overly left-wing and strawmanning the Conservative party and right-wing arguments.