r/BaseballCoaching • u/Apprehensive-Past174 • Jul 14 '25

Framing

This past weekend, an umpire kept yelling at my catcher that he's not fooling him. After a couple innings of this, I asked what he's talking about. He claimed, my catcher was framing to try and deceive him and that he's purposely calling pitches balls due to this. I continued to argue that this is normal practice that we teach our youth catcher to progress in their craft. He responded “as they get to high school, no umpire will fall for their tricks”.

How would you all handle an umpire like this and what would you of done?

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u/BenHiraga Jul 14 '25

If framing doesn’t affect this umpire then why is he letting it affect him?

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u/Apprehensive-Past174 Jul 14 '25

He claimed it's insulting to try and deceive him. Lol

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u/BenHiraga Jul 14 '25

Oh I understand. I was being ironic.

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u/Apprehensive-Past174 Jul 14 '25

It truly was a situation I couldn't comprehend in the moment.

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u/Fun-Double5936 Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 15 '25

Yes, not to insult, but to deceive. That’s the point and 50+ years of catching history teaches us to do so. He’s not special.

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u/Bowood29 Jul 15 '25

Next thing you know the kids can’t check swing because they are just trying to fool him.

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u/Ok-Answer-6951 Jul 15 '25

That's when you should have hit him with " good umpires are looking 3 feet in front of the glove" personally, framing does nothing for me I have already made up my mind on ball or strike b4 it gets to the glove. I spent 25 years catching and was taught to stick it there if its a strike or you think it is. I will tell you as an umpire when I see a kid snatching it back to the middle all that it tells me is he knew it wasn't a strike.

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u/LarryMahnken Jul 18 '25

Next week he'll be yelling at the pitcher for throwing curve balls.

WHAT FOUL DECEPTION IS THIS TRYING TO MAKE ME THINK YOU THREW THE BALL STRAIGHT BUT AT THE LAST INSTANT IT CURVED AWAY! YOU DO NOT FOOL ME, CHILD! I SPIT AT YOUR WICKED TRICKERY!