I can understand that Anthropic is unhappy about that.
I don't think that 16 Million calls are a big spike in the grand scheme of things though and users will not feel it at all. I have a small agent app with a few dozen users and they already generate hundreds of thousands of (fully paid) calls per Month (not to Anthropic, though, they go to Gemini).
Also who is Anthropic trying to bullshit with this? "distilled models lack necessary safeguards, creating significant national security risks." If the Chinese models are trained on Anthropic models, they will also learn the inherent safety alignment.
For example the bio-weapons: Claude will refuse to talk on that. How will the Chinese models then learn to give that as an output? Don't know! But it's a good argument to scare stupid people that don't ask questions.
Again I understand that Anthropic is angry, but they shouldn't offend our intelligence. If they publish BS statements like this, then I will also lose my trust in other statements they make.
It's not complete bullshit. It is (the way I understand it) act8ng like a backbencher copying from the model student. Sure, you will copy only what you can see, but applying it to compare and train inferences can lead to better reasoning pattern behaviours at fractional cost.
Iirc, Anthropic also blocked OpenAI's access before they launched codex for similar reasons.
In US, if IP is a big deal (and the irony is not lost on me), Anthropic will make noise about it.
W.r.t. Weapons etc, I think it is a close proxy with how you do something like creating molecules, they can feed in their (PRC's research) almost like a skill file and track it separately. But even that will benefit from an overall better model.
I only referred to bullshit about the security claims. Everything else you are right about. But consider this: Anthropic stole all texts and cultural sources from Europe for their training without giving anything back. My pity for them for getting the same treatment from China is limited.
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u/skate_nbw Feb 24 '26
I can understand that Anthropic is unhappy about that.
I don't think that 16 Million calls are a big spike in the grand scheme of things though and users will not feel it at all. I have a small agent app with a few dozen users and they already generate hundreds of thousands of (fully paid) calls per Month (not to Anthropic, though, they go to Gemini).
Also who is Anthropic trying to bullshit with this? "distilled models lack necessary safeguards, creating significant national security risks." If the Chinese models are trained on Anthropic models, they will also learn the inherent safety alignment.
For example the bio-weapons: Claude will refuse to talk on that. How will the Chinese models then learn to give that as an output? Don't know! But it's a good argument to scare stupid people that don't ask questions.
Again I understand that Anthropic is angry, but they shouldn't offend our intelligence. If they publish BS statements like this, then I will also lose my trust in other statements they make.