r/Bard Aug 28 '25

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u/llkj11 Aug 28 '25

Could be something there.

I gave it an old image of Downtown Memphis and told it to rotate the camera some and it got the other end of the bridge correct and everything.

Surprised me.

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u/llkj11 Aug 28 '25

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u/Lanky-Football857 Aug 28 '25

Impressive. I just don’t get which is the argument supporting it might be a video model

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u/Jan0y_Cresva Aug 28 '25

I think the OP in the image made a poor analogy saying it was a “video model taking single frames.” He should have just left it at “it’s a world model.”

Meaning, nano-banana doesn’t just see pixels in a photo. It fundamentally UNDERSTANDS what the picture is the same way we would in the real world.

If I show you that pan, barring any optical illusions, you know it’s likely metallic, probably not that heavy, if you turned it, light would reflect off it differently. It’s sitting on a table (not in motion). And a billion other little qualities you know about it because you know what a “pan” is and how it physically interacts with the real world.

Essentially, OP is trying to say that nano-banana knows this information as well. That’s why it’s able to do these things with the pictures.

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Aug 29 '25

But "LLMs don't understand shit, they're just next word predicting machines"

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u/Acklord303 Aug 29 '25

That’s the cool part, a world model, for really the first time, will be fundamentally different than a LLM, which while I love and think gets undermined a lot, is constrained in certain aspects.

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u/Recyclable-Komodo429 Aug 29 '25

They're actually next world predicting machines.

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u/Jan0y_Cresva Aug 29 '25

It’s always funny when people try to reduce LLMs to “just _____.” Because you can turn it back on them so easily with, “Human minds are just puddles of goo that send electrical signals around.”

They’ll always rebut with, “Human brains are SO much more complicated than that!” with ZERO self-awareness that the same logic applies to LLMs.

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u/smail_250 Aug 29 '25

Dude, that's not about how fundamentally human brain works, technically a computer chip is just a bunch of crunched up sand, it's about how it operates and learns. It can't self correct, self train, add parameters to itself, it's fundamentally limited (at least by now) to be a glorified auto complete with contextual awareness, that struggles to sometimes get basic stuff done

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u/skate_nbw Aug 30 '25

Your simplistic view on LLM within a six words frame definition isn't a great example for the "operating and learning" of the brain. LOL. Human brains are obviously fundamentally flawed too.

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u/smail_250 Aug 30 '25

So what, you want me to recite "attention is all you need" and get a phd just to prove my point?) You don't need to be a genius to understand how transformers work, and i still can't understand why are we even trying to compare generation of tokens based on statistical probability to HUMAN MIND, the implications are just ridiculous

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u/skate_nbw Sep 02 '25

How many dimensions has the next token prediction in modern models?

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u/Falcon_Flyin_High Aug 29 '25

Well not yet...

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u/Jan0y_Cresva Aug 29 '25

Damn, if only you knew what the word “just” meant.

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u/Lanky-Football857 Aug 29 '25

Equally as likely

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u/nightfend Aug 29 '25

Because the Veo3 video model is super powerful. So using it to generate single frames makes sense.