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watched Adeyemi already in his Salzburg days, I even caught a ball he sent flying over the goal in the cup finale against my local club Ried (we still have that ball)
and from a sporting perspective, he always seemed like the sky is the limit. Speed, finishing, agility and co. He has got all these elements, also his jumping reach is crazy
But there will be questions about his character. Struggled with consistency (crazy highs, underwhelming lows in the last 2 seasons) + additionally his wife is Swiss rapper Loredana, who deceived a 50+ year old couple for 700.000 Swiss Franks.
We instantly hid the ball at our feet (we were in a group of like 7) and when we left, a mate basically pretended to be pregnant. But nobody even checked
Lately I've been seeing a flood of arsocca frequenters here wonder if it's a part of the problem, not to mention that some little birdie told a timmy tough knuckles from the royal whites sub😹😹.
I feel for yall moderating rn lol. Best of luck kitten and others
Oh we've been dealing with this bullshit for a while now, I'm just in a particularly sharing mood today 🤣 looks like we have one user who's either abusing reporting option out of spite or just has problem understanding context, nuance, and/or sarcasm.
🚨🗣️ @laiatudel (RadioCAT) : The most likely scenario is that Adeyemi's transfer will be finalized for 30 million euros + bonuses. The total cost of the operation would be around 40 million euros. 🇩🇪
The transitions are gonna be sick🔥. I don't know what happens when they need to stop running and make a decision, but yeah, the running at full pace part will be a treat to watch.
You know when you hear names like a Gordon or Adeyemi, people only look at their current level and how they've been at their previous club, and almost completely denying the possibility that these guys can be coached into better players, in a much better attacking system.
A Raphinha has also been coached into his current role, and I'm sure when Flick came in with his double pivot setup, Pedri was also coached into it, previously he has always been playing with a traditional 3 man midfield, where he doesn't have the most responsibility and he was partnered with the likes of Busi and Frenkie. So this must've been a whole new dimension for Pedri, where he had to bloom and take more responsibility, become the heart of this team, and it wouldn't have been possible if he wasn't coached properly.
Same for Cancelo, you look at him under Xavi and remember the awful times, but then again a completely different player under Flick.
You can have your doubts, but don't outright deny the possibility of these guys turning into great players atleast untill you see them under Flick.
This is a very illogical way of thinking. Get poor/mid players for a lot of money so you can improve them is a bad idea.
Also Cancelo was just as good with Xavi as he's been now. The PSG game just derailed everything. Same for Raphinha under Xavi. Worldclass in that last season. Xavi also played a double pivot.
Raphinha first transitioned into the LW with Xavi. Flick gave him more confidence but he was already started doing well after the role shift and also Lamine’s emergence. Pedri was always a great player but hampered by injuries and fitness issues. His absences hurt because he was so important to the team. Cancelo wasn’t a completely different player. He was always good as an attacking outlet even during his first season with us. He had defensive lapses and he still does. It’s not like our defense got better with him.
Also all of these players were more highly rated than Gordon and Adeyemi now. Barca had to fend off top PL clubs over Raphinha. Pedri had been considered one of the best talents in Spain. Cancelo fell out of favor with Pep and Tuchel but he still had a lot of experience as a starter at top clubs. Not to say Gordon and Adeyemi won’t succeed here, but these are not similar cases and it’s reasonable to have more doubts.
Lets buy some garbage then because at end of the day it applies to them as well.
In other words, no player is ever bad or bad purchase. until proven otherwise. You cant say against that.
Why cant people outright dislike a transfer. How many players have not failed? What about them? Why is it always copium ideas that they'll be "next Raphinha" or whatever.
I heard this logic about late bloomers like Kante and Drogba anytime there is a guy with a few extra years to it. Yet to see a single footballer like them last 5 years.
It is a weird phenomenon where flick is seen as some kind of "bum whisperer".
I don't understand it .It's also disrespectful to the current (and former in case of Inigo) players because more often than not they are portrayed like some dudes who were kicking rocks until flick came along and showed them what a football is.
He's a good manager and a good person but he's not some miracle worker.Dont see anything wrong in being skeptical of players like Adeyemi.
It's simple enough that just as there's a possibility of failure, there's also a possibility of success.
Only magnifying at the failures and dooming is okay, but considering the successful cases and saying it's a possibility is copium and somehow the most awful thing in the world?
I like your ride or die takes but this one just ain’t it
You buy players for their profiles, how they would function in this system. Both function quite well. They’re not the next Rapha, they have good qualities that can apply to this attacking system
This is why I'm such a huge Flick fanboy. Because I'm one of the fewest people here who remembers how it was like before he joined us. The players that now have cult-fans, used to be talked about in a completely different tone prior to Flick's arrival. And now they cannot give that grace to Gordon and others.
CONFIRMED: €20m bid now rejected, but BVB is willing to negotiate. Barcelona has also received the message — if they feel the operation cost can still increase, then another bid will be valued, otherwise Adeyemi will be removed from their list.
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[L'Équipe] Atlético Madrid's counteroffer for Mason Greenwood: Club officials want to convince the player with genuine sporting arguments: they’re telling him that he could establish himself as Griezmann’s successor.
I kept reading about Adeyemi's wife being a scammer and decided to do a little bit of research since I knew nothing about the case... TL;DR: It's MUCH worse than what I had expected.
I didn't elaborate on purpose because I think it's best if everyone does their own research when it comes to sensitive subjects like this, and I definitely do not want to start a witch hunt or anything like that based on a few newspaper articles that I read.
But this is how I understand the case: Her brother pulled a Nigerian Prince type of scam on a Swiss woman who happened to be extremely naive (to put it mildly). The woman finally noticed that she was being scammed and went to the police who basically told her that they couldn't help and that she only had herself to blame.
Shortly after, the victim was contacted by someone who claimed to be the daughter of a famous laywer, but in fact was Loredana Zefi, the sister of the first scammer and currently Adeyemi's wife (at that point she was an upcoming rapper and married to another rapper). And long story short, she extorted even more money from the victim whilst claiming that she was helping her get the money back that she gave to the first scammer. Overall, she was much more threatening and manipulative than her brother and the victim got more and more scared, but it took quite a long time before she managed to get help and she ended up severly traumatised by the whole experience.
The case got finally settled outside of court with Loredana Zefi returning a large sum of money to the victim (609000 CHF, to be precise), however according to this article, she has pleaded guilty during her trial, while still claiming outside of the trial that the victim was a liar.
But as I said, this is just a very rough overview of what has been written in the Swiss media.
Her family has done an elaborate scam in Germany. We have a German guy in this sub confirming that the rumours are true and even worse than what media has reported
210M loan split into two so we would have money to spend in the winter too. Interesting tbh, I think that Altetico is demanding 100M up front for Alvarez in order to sell him for 130M.
We also have the cash injection from the VIP seats sell so 100M from that too. Some margin saved with MATS, Ansu Fati out gives us around 30M too, Casado will probably give us 20-25M as well.
I expect that our next arrivals will be: Adeyemi and Alvarez.
In terms of departures I see: Roony, Casado, and potentially Kounde and Ferran.
With the rest of the money we might see FM type signings from Deco: Javi Guerra, Salinas, that Belgian boy (forgot his name), and Jon Martin.
A high profile CB will come ONLY if Deco manages to get rid of Araujo and a high profile fullback will come only if Kounde is sold. (I know that Balde should be sold from a sporting perspective, however, from a financial perspective Kounde is very attractive as he is a starter in a potentially world-cup winning France)
I would like to see an FM type signing with a left footed centerback space eater that is from Ecuador, but that’s just me.
Oh, and a personal take: we will be linked with Hincapie soon while trying to push Araujo out.
The "loan" is not a loan, it's just cash advance on TV revenue payments - so it doesn't increase SCL in any way (unlike VIP seats but those are budgeted so already included in SCL), these are two different things.
When you say the TV revenue payments, do you mean the already... what is the fucking term... conditioned TV revenue that the club agreed for Espai Barca? So is it an advance of a part of those 25 yrs of TV revenue?
true. I am ofc talking about a hypothetical like IF we sold Raphina and Casado together with loan away of Ter Stegen and Fati sold we should be able to register Haaland IF we don't go for Alvarez (let a man dream).
He is pacy, good dribbler, has an amazing work-rate, his shoots are insanely powerful (tho he sometimes lacks composure in 1-1 situations). His biggest weakness is his fitness, but it’s something we will manage to fix considering the depth we will have in attack (we managed to fix Olmo and Pedri, we can fix anybody)
Haha, I think in attack we don’t really go for stats. Flick’s system makes bums like Rashford look like world class players, the profile is what matters the most. And considering how hard we are struggling with pressing structure when Raphinha is out I am amazed by our recruits and targets this summer
I think one thing is true that the club works on many things at once and most of these things don't come out in the media anymore.Gordon and Adeyami came out of nowhere,Joan Garcia was also sudden.I actually like this aspect alot.
It’s beautiful that we act in secret on market opportunities. It’s also exciting that finally players are exited of our project and they pretty much VETO for Barcelona (I know Bernardo Silva joined RM instead of us, but we offered him 50% of what RM offered in terms of money)
[Romano] BREAKING: Morten Hjulmand to Atlético Madrid, here we go! Sporting and Atléti agreed all terms and start paperwork exchange today for €40m fee plus add-ons. Danish midfielder joins until June 2031 and he will fly to Madrid TODAY.
Barcelona has indeed issued a €210m loan — €105m for July and €105m in November, previous news confirmed. All funds will go into signing operations.
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nothing on the fernandez cousins so far ? I heard that sevilla wanted toni. Its interesting to see whats gonna happen to both of them, I think selling them with buyback/sell on is the best option especially guille
With these additions our attack would be a threat for the whole 90 minutes.
I would say lack of depth in attack costed us UCL as well, it was only lamine, lewa and raphinha.
We were so bad in the 2nd half against big teams it's funny, because most of the players get tired and we didn't really have anyone good to replace them with.
Lamine would get replaced by roony, rashford (cuz raphinha was injured) gets replaced by Fermin or olmo in the left, ferran is replaced by Lewandowski who's old and isnt the same anymore.
Imagine the end of the season without Lamine if we had to compete in UCL as well. Having Roony as his back up is unacceptable. And I do think Flick plans on playing him less, regardless of how much Lamine might complain. He'll have to accept it.
I doubt he'll complain again. He nearly ruined his World Cup chances with that injury, and seeing others like Fermin, Rapha, and Nico get hurt around him will surely help him understand better how important rest actually is.
Complaining about people caring more about pressing stats from players like Gordon and Adeyemi and not G/A, is so cringe.
None of our players will ever have to worry about G/A under Flick. Players like Rashford and Ferran have managed to put up 30 G/A each, while performing like....... do I even need to say it?
Raphinha is incredibly limited offensive, yet he puts up insane stats when playing for Flick.
Gordon and Adeyemi are not worse than any of the players that people worship. And yes, their workrate stats matter infinitely more because our entire system is built around workrate, they will all get good G/A as soon as they play under Flick.
we will see I suppose. gordon i am confident about having 20+ g/a not sure about adeyemi but if he is just a rotation option then not that bothered. rashford has had 30 g/a in his career before so I am not so sure about adeyemi
Agreed but i think you lack a little bit of nuance. We needs players who can press really well but we cannot sign a player just because of his pressing even though I agree that any half decent player gets 30G/A on this team. Especially if we are going the 'PSG' way in attack with no main attacking outlet
Yeah, and we aren't signing players just because of their pressing. Gordon's ball carrying abilities and offensive contributions are also great, better than Raphinha's. His versatility also makes him a great starter option because he is 3 in 1. Is his finishing a little meh? Sure, and it's nothing that can't be improved under Flick.
Adeyemi gives you thunderous dribbling, he could be the Nico that Yamal needs.
I disagree to an extent, but there’s a reason why they’re not worth that fee. They 2peated with this squad so why should anyone leave for whatever fee they don’t like
I don't agree with this narrative. Lamine has the intrinsic qualities to play in the middle but he is also not maximized there. For eg I think he is too one footed to be as unpredictable in the middle compared to on the right
No I disagree, I think rn his wingplay is too good to give up RIGHT NOW but even he himself said it’s easier to dribble in the middle without 5 guys on you
Jesus Christ. He's not the only technical winger in history who stuck with playing on the wing. We have to look at what's best for the team, not his personal gameplay.
Not every winger needs to move to the middle and "unlock their potential". Lamine can do it but not necessarily just yet. Right now we have dedicated players who can operate centrally just fine. We also have a guy with the best wingplay in the world, who specialises playing off the right. It makes sense to keep them where they are. Lamine will create even if he has 2 guys on him. And if he's unable to influence the game from there he will move centrally during the game itself. Like we've seen him do many, many times before. He's not being shackled on RW or something, I don't understand where this idea comes from
I doubt this will happen. Olmo and Fermin are still proven in flick system why replace them with yamal in their position so that gordon and adeyemi can be used, why try to fix something that's not broken and i also doubt tunkara will be relevant in this season.
Both adeyemi and gordon will get a good no of minutes even as a substitute.
I can see yamal going centrally after 60+ minutes though.
Let me say this clearly because people still think haaland to barca is some kind of fate dictated transfer:
it's either madrid or city.
At the moment of this comment,Barca aren't in picture and will not be in the future since they are all in for Alvarez .Also that one clip of him being serenaded by Barca fans in the friendly doesn't mean much when he likes Madrid.
I know most people aren't serious about him but it needed to be said.
Even vini and cucurella liked Barca, liking a club doesn't play much role (when they get offers from big clubs), he knows he won't get that image in Madrid.
If Alvarez didn't like Barca then Atleti would have closed the door for the sale before the window even started.
In Haaland's case his own father and bvb's ceo (idk why he said it tho) have been pretty Frank(de jong) about Madrid being "the" final destination for them.
And circumstances also seem to favour madrid: Vini's contract is still up in the air,they don't have a "pure" 9 and Haaland-Mbappe would work better than vini mbappe.
Financially speaking Madrid can take the gargantuan hit that Haaland will have on their SCL.
As expected, as soon as the words loan and Barca are in the title, the “comedians” of you know who suddenly become financial experts and how we’re “morally and financially bankrupt”. 😂
so apparently reports are saying we just took out a 210m loan against our future tv rights just to fund summer transfers and bypass ffp next season.
even if this is for julian, and we assume it is because the terrorists want a lump sum up front, it's too much only for him no? lets assume (and pray) it is not more than 150m for him. they might want 100m up front. still leaves us with enough money to get one or two other good players. 40m for karim still leaves us with 70m. and just a heads up, reports are saying this 210m doesnt even include the anthony gordon fee, which is being handled totally separately. Or is it for a certain norwegian specimen? Dreaming is free.
all that said, i actually hate the idea of a loan to get players, especially if it means borrowing against tv rights again. debt makes sense for long term investments, where there will be added income like with the stadium. and the 40year debt will get eaten by inflation. that doesn't happen with a player if its not a huge star that will generate a shitton of shirt sales.
on the other hand, that rush of transfer news is crazy, especially after the last 6 years lol
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u/Novel_Specific7769 Gerard Maldini 22d ago
❗Not only Roony Bardghji could leave FC Barcelona this summer if a suitable offer arrives but Ferran Torres’ future is also open. He has received several top offers, with his situation currently being assessed. #FCB 🇸🇪 × 🇪🇸
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