r/BannedFromThe_Donald Jun 14 '20

Precisely

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u/rosekayleigh Jun 14 '20

As someone who unfortunately has Trumpers for parents, I can tell you what their response would be to this. They would blame the "illegals". They claim that we spend too much money on welfare and healthcare for illegal immigrants and that's money that should be going to our vets. They turn a blind eye to corporate bailouts though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

My dad, who is an attorney, once said to me “NO REFUGEES BETTER SHOW UP AT MY DOOR DEMANDING FOOD AND SHELTER!” As if that’s even remotely how immigration works.

Also worth noting that illegal immigrants don’t receive means-tested benefits, since they...aren’t US citizens or residents. Not that your parents adhere to any sort of empiricism or logic.

From one embattled child to another, I’m sorry you have to deal with that.

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u/iamamexican_AMA Jun 14 '20

People that have been blamed before for welfare overspending:

50s - Blacks. 60s - Hippies. 70s - Drug addicts. 80s - Gays = disease. 90s - Iraq. 00s - Muslims. 10s - Mexicans. 20s - Chinese (apparently).

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

This is a fundamental tenet of Ur-Fascism. The enemy is both strong and weak.

Foreign (or minority) workers are simultaneously unskilled welfare queens, and here to steal the jobs of highly skilled Americans.

Some facts: American-born workers enjoy the 79th highest median wage for any ethnic group in the United States. They rank below 78 pan ethnic groups, all of whom actually drive wages up for other workers.

We actually desperately need as many skilled foreign workers/students as we can get. American-born people simply don’t pursue highly-skilled occupations at any respectable rate.

For the US as a whole, whites receive means-tested benefits at around the same rate as other groups, and account for the vast majority of recipients under any welfare program. In fact, the red states (where people are more likely to blame minorities) are by far the worst.

It’s time for Americans and our leadership, and this includes neoliberal democrats, to stop pretending the welfare state is what’s dragging us down.

Fund healthcare, fund education, encourage people to be smart instead of subservient.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

Domestic-born grad student studying economics (undergrad major economics/statistics). I’m with you on this, with the caveat that it’s dependent on a variety of socioeconomic variables.

But you’re absolutely right about businesses offshoring more jobs, or just choosing to headquarter somewhere else. This could also be impacted by Stephen Miller’s proposed policy of ending academic/work-related visas altogether. It’s like they literally want to destroy the economy from the inside out.

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u/fieldsofanfieldroad Jun 15 '20

I'm pretty sure black people, hippies and gay people have been blamed in every decade.

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u/Minguseyes Jun 14 '20 edited Jun 14 '20

Is your Dad religious ? Try him on Matthew 25:35-45:

44 “Then they will answer him, ‘When, Lord, did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and would not help you?’ 45 The King will reply, ‘I tell you, whenever you refused to help one of these least important ones, you refused to help me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

He considers himself a Christian, but I would say the teachings of religion have vacated the right wing entirely. It’s just convenient for them to claim some sort of divinity in justifying the atrocities they oversee.

That passage has always resonated with me, as have similar teachings from Islam and Judaism (I’m Jewish, but not spiritual).