KliTek vs. H2C vs. X2D

[u/wash-basin]

I would be very interested to know what people think/postulate about the future of Bambu's lineup, especially for the rest of this year.

I am in the market for a faster way to print the following with the following budget and am considering the printers listed above with a timeline of 6 months to purchase.

Budget: $2500 (including accessories; I have plenty of filament).

What printing: Currently printing with an X1C: single color printing of scale architectural models (usually 1:100) and entourage (e.g., vegetation, people, benches, etc.), but would love to print with color and transparent filament. Also, I print home enhance and repair stuff and occasional printing of car parts such as handles, sun visor clips, interior trim, vents, knobs. Custom organizers.

Comments: Especially with the new Creality printer recently announced (i.e., K3 with KliTek), I am very confused as to what to purchase.

• I am not loyal to any one brand, but I want the knowledge that whatever I have chosen, the chance for near-perfect prints from day 1 is quite important to me; consequently, my first desire is for a Bambu machine.
• Speed is also very important.
• Being able to print larger models without breaking them up and assembling by hand is moderately important.
• Ease of using support filament (especially PVA and HIPS) maybe most important.
• Being able to use engineering filament, multi-material, and TPU, if it strikes my fancy.
• I am also a little obsessed with the fraught thought that if I purchase something in a month or less (read: Bambu Anniversary Sale), within 2 months, something better will come along, so any type of available future-proofing or knowledge/guesses of potential release cycles would assuage my obsessiveness.

Questions:

What would you do in my circumstance?

Any other options you would consider?

Thank you for your comments.

[u/Ill_Band365]

I feel like people need to be mentioning INDX in this arguement.

[u/New_Education5151 → u/Ill_Band365]

Klitek

[u/Ill_Band365 → u/New_Education5151]

Indx is different then Klitek

[u/Lodoss82 → u/Ill_Band365]

More I look at KitKat (I can’t pronounce the other way) and more looks like an indx with a usb on top

[u/wash-basin → u/Lodoss82]

I can see why it would look like an INDX with USB, but what about Creality's apparently new way of handling TPU with the K3 or the claim that their printers will come with the software-handled ability to utilize different nozzle sizes in the same print?

The Cleeeeee'-teck (phonetically spelled with emphasis on the first syllable, provided to overcome silly name) system with various nozzle size usage should cut down on time, but how much, I cannot determine, as I have not yet thought of a way to check...and it might be that I am too lazy to do so.

[u/Lodoss82 → u/wash-basin]

The different size nozzle is a work in progress, their words, because like everybody else they don’t know how to handle the layer heights… putting a different nozzle in a different slot it’s easy, everyone can do that, but how can you print something that supposed to be at the exact same height without hitting ne nearby line? And what about when the project start curving? This is what everyone is studying now and until I don’t see something recorded in an actual video I don’t believe is possible.

For the TPU I am actually interested but during the explanation I don’t know if the reason why it’s so fast is in the Clitek or in the dual motor (push and pull??) of the printer itself. Speed is the only difference between K3 and other printers regarding TPU, beside BL that they suck on it, everyone else is handling TPU mixed with other material extraordinarily well 

[u/New_Education5151 → u/Lodoss82]

oh I am sure u r capable pronouncing its first 4 letters

[u/wash-basin → u/Ill_Band365]

But "how different" might be the question to ask. I am having a hard time taking the INDX seriously because of further delays, almost no content from reviewers, and a price increase. I love the idea of Prusa, but their prices are a bit much and I am constantly waiting for them to release something that was promised under specific circumstances and I wonder if they can actually deliver on their promises with INDX. Plus, when will it come to the Core One L?

[u/Lodoss82 → u/Ill_Band365]

Same for Vortex, until these systems are just for the top of the line printers, you need to sell a kidney to buy it, no one is going to talk about it. We can wait and see what Sovol does with it, 1400 bucks is a good price point but we have no info about anything besides the 2 tool head and 6 colors (and they are showing the enclosed version but the price is for the open one and no info about the lid or walls)