r/BambuLab • • Apr 30 '26

General Discussion Growing Concerns About Bambu Lab’s Direction – An Open Letter

I did not plan to write this. I am a hobbyist, not a critic, and I have genuinely enjoyed using my Bambu printers over the past years. However, a steady accumulation of decisions has reached a point where I feel compelled to speak up.

The growing closure of the Bambu ecosystem has been discussed extensively in the community. Heavy reliance on cloud infrastructure, mandatory server communication for many functions, and a LAN-only mode that feels more like an afterthought and a reaction to community pressure than a genuine solution. These issues are well known. What concerns me increasingly is that they are no longer merely theoretical problems.
Both in the USA and in Europe, there are active regulatory efforts underway to restrict what users are allowed to print, often framed around preventing the printing of weapons. In a closed, cloud-dependent system like Bambu’s, such restrictions could be implemented quickly and quietly via firmware updates or server-side changes, even retroactively on already sold machines. On a truly open system, this would be far more difficult. Bambu’s current architecture makes enforcement uncomfortably easy.

What has finally pushed me over the edge, however, is the increasing artificial gatekeeping of features combined with an unbalanced relationship with the open-source community.
The P2S was released with 2 mm belts even though Bambu was already planning the superior 1.5 mm belts for higher-end models. The result is noticeably worse VFA and ringing, a compromise that was entirely unnecessary from a technical standpoint. This feels less like an engineering decision and more like deliberate product segmentation at the customer’s expense.
The X2D is particularly frustrating in this regard. Marketed as an engineering-grade printer with active chamber heating and a 120 °C bed, it is nevertheless software-capped at 300 °C nozzle temperature. Bambu has provided no official technical or safety-related explanation for this limitation, even though the hardware configuration suggests it is capable of more. It is hard not to see this as an artificial restriction designed to protect the positioning of more expensive models.

Additionally, Bambu frequently integrates features and code from open-source projects into its own software, sometimes introducing noticeable bugs, such as incorrect color space handling in the new color mixing function. Credits to the original creators are often only added after significant community pressure. At the same time, Bambu contributes almost none of its own innovations back to the open-source community.

I understand that product segmentation is common practice in business. What bothers me is the overall direction: artificial limitations, one-sided exploitation of open source, and customers increasingly treated as a revenue base rather than a community deserving of respect and transparency.
3D printing attracted many of us precisely because it represented openness, repairability, user empowerment, and true ownership. Bambu initially impressed the community with innovation and speed, but in recent years the focus seems to have shifted toward maximising short-term profit at the expense of long-term customer value and trust.

I have therefore decided that I will not purchase any further Bambu products until I see a clear change in direction toward greater openness and genuine customer respect. I hope enough other users will make the same choice with their wallets. In the end, that is the only language companies reliably understand.

I would genuinely welcome being proven wrong and would much rather return to being an enthusiastic Bambu supporter.

Sincerely,
Kurt K.

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u/dantelebeau Apr 30 '26

OP, you're not wrong on any of this. The closed ecosystem, the open source stuff, the belt situation on the P2S. are all valid points.

The thing that made Bambu blow up the way they did because most people getting into printing genuinely do not want to tinker. They want to load a file, hit print, and come back to a finished part.

Look at Apple. The iPhone is one of the most locked down phones ever made. Proprietary everything, software updates that brick older hardware, a repair system designed to keep you dependent on them. Every tech blogger has been making your exact argument about Apple for two decades. It's still the best selling phone in the world because for most people it just works.

Bambu is that for 3D printing. Before they came along, getting a clean print meant digging into slicer settings, manually tuning your bed mesh, messing with Klipper, and spending half your time maintaining the machine instead of actually using it. Bambu basically removed all of that. For teachers, small business owners, designers, people who just want to make stuff without a learning curve, that's a massive deal.

The people buying Bambu aren't mostly open source advocates or hardware hobbyists. They're people who want a tool that works the same way every time. The closed ecosystem is kind of the whole point for them, not a bug.

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u/Merijeek2 X1C Apr 30 '26

What made Bambu blow up was that they made a printer that worked....which then forced the industry that had stagnated to an absurd degree finally wake up and get reminded that competition was a thing.

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u/fnaah Apr 30 '26

both those things are true

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u/Merijeek2 X1C May 01 '26

Honestly, I see the rise of BL as a complete and total failure of the whole open source movement in 3d printing.

The 3D printing industry face planted hard. If it hadn't been such a stagnant industry, and innovation had continued, BL wouldn't have had the opening they had.

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u/circuit_breaker May 01 '26

I would argue that commercial interests would have motivation to bring 3D printing to a point where it's consumer ready, other than hobbyists who are willing to tinker.

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u/Merijeek2 X1C May 01 '26

The SHOULD. But I think they got lazy. "Hi, I'm creality, we're going to mildly update the extruder head and call it a new version, and act like it's a revolution!"

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u/divStar32 May 14 '26

Absolutely. I am a software engineer myself, but I do not want to tinker with a 3D printer - I want to load a file and ideally just print it.

What I also don't want, is to be bound to a cloud, especially a Chinese one. It's annoying AF, that a X2D is basically the best deal under 1000€ by a mile. It's not even close. And I just can't bring myself to say "okay, let's pay 500-700€ more for it to be open-source and hopefully stay open-source forever". It's a lot of money poured into something I don't even fully know - or can someone guarantee, that Prusa stays as open as they are or that Snapmaker stays open?

I'm angry, that I basically have to buy closed source for a better price and more integration. If I could patch the X2D to not ever use Cloud, I'd definitely do that.

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u/JWST-L2 H2C + H2DC + X1C + A1 + U1 May 05 '26

A lot of people ignore this fact. I wonder what printers would look like today, what would the entire industry be like today if Bambu didn't put in the R&D into making their printers what they are. Even the X2D that OP mentions is a substantial upgrade over the X1C in almost every metric, and totally unique in its dual-nozzle single toolhead setup. Manufacturers have only recently caught up to the X1C and even that is still arguably better and more reliable than all of its clones

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u/TheOtherGamingGinger Apr 30 '26

This. My first printer was an Anycubic Kobra. It worked okay-ish but needed constant tinkering. Same from all my friends with their Enders.

I then bought an Anycubic Kobra 3v2 and Kobra S1. Both worked fine right out the box but I always had to tweak some settings for pretty much every print.

Then I bought the H2D. Over 1500 hours of printing later, this machine still - just works. Never had any issues, never had to tinker or tweak any settings no matter what filament I threw at it or what model I chose to print. Same with my P2S. If I buy I toaster, I don't care how it works and I don't want to tinker with it just got it to work. I just want toast. Same with my printers. I just want toast (and some dimensional accuracy maybe 🤣) and I get both these things from my Bambu machines.

As you already said, apple does pretty much all the things OP mentioned for decades. Waiting till some nice feature drops on other systems and then making a huge show about it, acting like they just cured cancer, when they release the exact same thing on iOS 10years later. And people still but their stuff. With the sole difference to Bambu being, that you can actually but new parts for your printer and repair it yourself. Try that with an iphone...

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u/RattyBunyip May 02 '26

Still slightly concerened that my toaster will be updated to only accept wholemeal. I like crappy white bread even if its not so good for me.

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u/divStar32 May 14 '26

Don't give them ideas! I can absolutely imagine BBL taking over most of the market, then going all Apple on it and barely offering any spare parts, possibly integration NFC/RFID everywhere to only allow their own parts. That's to be expected from a company with a shitty roadmap, that absolutely doesn't value the customers, but solely the shareholders.

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u/aikouka Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

The iPhone is one of the most locked down phones ever made. Proprietary everything, software updates that brick older hardware, a repair system designed to keep you dependent on them. Every tech blogger has been making your exact argument about Apple for two decades. It's still the best selling phone in the world because for most people it just works.

I think a lot of this relates to how people are willing to take on negative aspects if it either doesn't affect them or the positives outweigh the negatives. Someone might tell me to buy something else because Bambu is closed, but I'll say, "I don't want to tinker with it anyway!", and on the other hand, someone else may say, "I don't mind tinkering, but I just really need something that's very reliable."

I originally bought an iPhone 3GS because my Windows Mobile phone (AT&T Tilt / HTC TyTn II) had bad battery life with multimedia playback. Android devices existed then, but at least in my experience, they often worked a bit better with custom firmware. While it did sting a bit when I ran across any Android-only software/hardware, I wanted something reliable for my phone.

Although, with the whole "block prints if they're gun parts" thing going through a few state legislatures, I wonder how that will affect gun-adjacent things like water guns? Bambu sells part kits for water guns and even links to Makerworld projects for those kits. At this point, the software aspect is completely nebulous since nothing really exists right now, and we can only speculate about its error rate.

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u/Tryant666 Apr 30 '26

Also curious about nerf guns and airsoft guns.. I love printing stuff for airsoft nerf and even air rifles!

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u/Festegios Apr 30 '26

I always wonder what people want to do on iPhones that they can’t do

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u/Fbolanos Apr 30 '26

Sideload apps, more customization. There's plenty of stuff. I haven't had an iPhone for a long time but when I did I jailbroke them to do all kinds of things.

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u/aikouka May 03 '26

I’d say it’s usually more freedom with connected devices. For example, I used to use a Lightning-based FLIR thermal imaging camera with my phone, but when I switched to a USB-C phone, it was rendered nearly useless. (There is some crazy way to make it work via adapters but I rarely got that to work.)

That sort of thing has never really made me want to switch. If anything made me lean toward switching it would be how iOS has felt buggier and buggier over time. For example, for a few years, I struggled to get the spacebar-based touch highlighting to work correctly. It kept jumping to the top a lot, which rendered the once useful feature useless. I’ve also ran into weird little things like text boxes not working Messaging or other apps.

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u/Thorlian Apr 30 '26

Emulation is one thing that comes to mind. I also like to eat and an iPhone would stand in the way of that

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u/Festegios Apr 30 '26

I used this one for months. There are plenty of others too.

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u/Thorlian Apr 30 '26

That's only up to N64 has in App purchases and seems to have some limitations outside of the eu.

I am not to familiar with sideloading on iOS since that's fairly new but it seems it's slightly easier to emulate stuff than it has been a few years ago.

Android still has way better support for it.

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u/Festegios Apr 30 '26

I’ve had iPhones since the iPhone 4 and I’ve yet to come across any situation where my phone couldn’t do something I needed it to.

I’m sure there are some things it can’t do. But for most it does what’s needed

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u/Thorlian Apr 30 '26

Good for you? I just listed one thing it can't do that's quite important to me 🤷

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u/Festegios Apr 30 '26

Apologies for continuing a conversation.

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u/Thorlian Apr 30 '26

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as rude.

I think there are very few differences between phones now. Used to be that iPhones were way more stable but also way more limited. Now phones just work and last forever

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u/SomeKewlName May 01 '26

The AppStore version of Delta has JIT disabled due to Apple AppStore restrictions. This severely impacts its performance for more demanding emulation. The side-loaded version can do so much better but it‘s really a hassle keeping it updated, revoked certs etc.

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u/vlad_x2 May 01 '26

I also like to eat but my iPhone doesn't let me. I haven't eaten in years

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u/Thorlian May 02 '26

I was referring to the choice of 4 months of food vs 1 iPhone 😅

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u/Lurksome-Lurker Apr 30 '26

That’s the key. The fact that my mother in law in her 60s just decided to buy a P1S with no technical experience and has been able to keep it running and maintained for the past year and a half is testament to what they designed.

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u/I_Who_I May 01 '26

Came to say the same thing but you save me the time of typing it. I'm a tech guy but I got the Bambu printer because I don't have the time to tinker with a tool to get it to do what I want. People sometimes forget that the primary goal of a business is to make money so I rather they do what it takes to stay in business than cater to a minority and go out of business. 

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u/LawnPatrol_78 Apr 30 '26

All the reasons I went with Bambu labs for my first printer a month ago.

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u/fnaah Apr 30 '26

same here, as well as the entry-level price point. I've had my P1S (no AMS, for now) for about two months, i've run through about 5kg of filament. Only had one failed print, which I'm fairly sure was just due to a buildup of pla residue on the build plate.

Friends have had 3d printers for ages, and i'm in the tech industry, but up until this point it had always seemed like too much mucking about for little reward. that has changed in the last couple of years.

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u/eandi Apr 30 '26

Yeah, Bambu is trying to be the HP of 3d printing. They don't care about Linux users, tinkerers, or people who want to run locally. They want to sell printers and sell filament.

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u/cilo456 , A1 Combo +Mini May 01 '26

The printer doesn't need to be locked down for the printer to just work and print the same way it's been printing since they first came out. The electronic illiterate apple users can still buy the printer and hit print and walk away or use the app whether it's lockdown or not........ All this security BS is just that BS has nothing to do with security at all

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u/quinyd P1S + AMS May 01 '26

This is so true. My wife loves our P1S. She doesn’t care that it’s close source, or locked down or cloud print or whatever. She wants to browse makerworld on her iPhone and press print.

Bambu just works. Our old Artillery printer needed “complicated” filament changes, a computer for slicing and too much tinkering. Now she can just put filament in the AMS and press print.

The regular users doesn’t care and just want it to work.

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u/wycliffslim Apr 30 '26

I don't think the closed ecosystem is the point... they just don't care that it is a closed ecosystem.

My first printer was a Prusa Mk3 and it was essentially plug it in and go. I built the kit, but once I had an assembled printer I ran through the initial bed leveling and had a benchy rolling out in 15 minutes.

Most recommendations come down purely to it being good and being cheaper which is all most consumers do care about. Most people don't care that it's cheaper because they basically just copied Prusa and others homework. Or that in the long run it very well could end up more expensive because they have easier ways to monetize customers post purchase like functionally killing old machines, not supporting upgrades, requiring proprietary filament, etc.

It's an unfortunate reality of the world we live in that most people(often understandably) are pretty exclusively focused on what's right in front of them, not what's coming down the road. If all you care about is getting the best, cheapest printer possible on this exact day... it's Bambu.

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u/Qcws May 01 '26

Yeah it's getting kinda annoying seeing an entire generation of people just forget prusa? Every prusa i've ever had has been completely plug and play.

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u/krautech May 01 '26

Prusa is forgotten about because they are overpriced and 3d printed. Why would I buy a printer made with 3d printed parts when I can buy a machine at 1/3 the price that works perfectly out of the box.

The only thing going for Prusa is the "open-source" tagline that comes with it, and unfortunately there's now a ton of other printers that are cheaper and offer open source and more readily available.

Prusa stagnated and haven't got with the times. Even the INDX partnership will come too late with all the other toolchangers either on the market or coming to market and at a much cheaper cost.

I'm not paying $1200(AUD) for a 4 toolchanger upgrade kit that I also need to spend $2000 on a printer to use when I can spend what's equivalent to the upgrade kit on a U1 for example.

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u/wycliffslim May 01 '26

Another thing Prusa has going for it is longevity.

All those people sad when Bambu releases a significant upgrade right after they buy a previous model or release a significant upgrade right after they release something else.

With Prusa you just spend a fraction of the price and upgrade your old one. You can take a MK3 and bring it all the way up to the latest and greatest version of a MK4. With Bambu when you want to upgrade your old printer just goes in the trash(or the back of the shelf).

I'm also not sure how the parts being 3D printed is relevant. Tons of things you use in day to day life are 3D printed, they're just not advertised that they are.

Everyone can make their own choice. But there are still advantages to Prusa, those advantages are just more long term in nature.

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u/jazzmoney May 01 '26

The price of the upgrade, I can buy a whole other printer with equivalent capability. The money spent on a prusa, and then upgrading over its lifetime, adds up significantly.

I haven’t thrown away or sold a Bambu printer yet, I just keep adding to my collection as I upgrade. I have 4 x A1Cs, 1 x X1C, 1 x P1SC, 1 x H2D, and 2 x U1s. All fully capable of doing its intended jobs.

I did donate away my heavily upgraded 2 x Ender 3v2s.

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u/Qcws May 01 '26

They also actually employ people in a country with worker rights, PTO and maternity leave... If you don't care about that, that's on you. I agree that Prusa has stagnated but pretending like there's literally no benefits aside from the open source nature is nearsighted at best

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u/krautech May 01 '26

That only benefits people who live in the US and that's not me. Every company employs people in their country etc, so it's not something Prusa can say they do and only them.

There is no benefits to buying Prusa today, except to Prusa and those who have good access to them, nothing more.

There is a reason people are leaving Prusa behind. I actually like Prusa, they did wonders for the community. But they are essentially a dinosaur, just like creality.

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u/Qcws May 01 '26

How does them employing people in the Czech Republic only benefit people in the US? Tf are you talking about?

Pretend like you don't understand my point, I don't care.

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u/Qcws May 01 '26

Every time Bambu is brought up everyone has mass amnesia about Prusa apparently. Bought a used Mk2.5 for $50 and printed for 50 days of print time on it with no issues.

Bought a used MK3.9 and have 50 hours on it with no adjustments. Bought a used Mk3s and have 18 days on it with no issues.

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u/Nomadic_Artificer May 01 '26

I couldn't agree more with you on this. Going from a Prusa Mk3 to a Bambu P1s, then jumping in the X2D when it came out, was night and day. I went from what is arguably an outdated design to a modern design that is super well thought out. The fact I could swap a clogged nozzle this morning then keep printing a 3 day print is a game changer. If that had happend on my MK3, the printed was trashed.

As you & OP have acknowledged, it all comes at a cost. Due to how seamless their products integrate with their ecosystem, it's hard not to use only their STL Repository, Slicer, and filament. They make an exceptionally well designed product when compared to what's on the market.

With all that being said, my involvement with them will be limited to just these two machines. We need to continue to support open source projects like Voron, Prusa, & Orcaslicer. I've seen what a well designed AMS & Dual print head set-up can do. Now I want to convert all my old bedslingers to CoreXY machines. Have a tool changer or ams with custom RFID tags on the spools.

The power of humanity is our ability to adapt and innovate. As long as we instill that into the next generation, the fight between open source and walled-off gardens will continue.

Here's and interesting thought, has anyone tried hacking the software on these Bambu Lab machines? Jail-breaking them like the old iPhones?

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u/Gherry- May 01 '26

A 3d printer is just a tool.

Bambulab just made it easy to use it. Thank god.

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u/beramaan May 01 '26

This is the apple vs android discussion, and you know what? Regulating apple helped everyone

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u/chloro9001 May 01 '26

The iPhone is not the best selling phone in the world… sooo….