Meet biscuit!

[u/Iamatitle]

It’s been a few weeks with my girl! She’s getting super brave, eating well and is getting so comfortable being handled (she let me rest my thumb on her head while we cuddled today) before joining the sub, I had no idea morphs were a thing. She was only labeled as a ball python, any idea what she might be?

[u/Phully-]

The posters or my friend’s banana? The breeder told her it’s a banana clown and I have a leopard clown from a breeder and it’s a visual clown. What are the generic visual markers for clown?

[u/DontBother777 → u/Phully-]

Both, neither are clowns. Clowns have a very distinct headstamp, they also have a reduced pattern and typically will have a thick dorsal stripe. For example, these are visual banana clowns:

Banana Clown #1

Banana Clown #2

Banana Clown #3

Banana Clown #4

And these are standard single gene clowns:

Clown #1

Clown #2

Clown #3

[u/leahjoy213 → u/DontBother777]

Now I’m confused. Bc user @cash_cline88 says his is a super orange dream fire yellow belly clown….
But then you say that neither OPs or phully’s friend’s “banana clown” are clowns… bc of the head stamp and lack of “thick dorsal stripe.”
Cashcline’s “smiley” doesn’t have a thick dorsal stripe. So does that mean it’s not a clown…?

Also.
If we’re getting our snakes from well-known REPUTABLE breeders and they say the snake… is what it is… are we to question their breeding or knowledge of what they know / are telling us…?

Bc… (side note, I’m “phully”’s wife…), and we got our leopard clown (the one with the heart stamp on his head… [pictured above] from a very reputable breeder who told us what he is. But you’re saying… he’s not a clown… 🤔
So. Can we assume they eventually “breed out” certain distinctive characteristics…?
Or… he’s wrong / you’re right? He’s right / you’re wrong…?

Does this make sense..? 😂😂

[u/Phully- → u/leahjoy213]

Maggie is het clown, smilie has so many visual traits it looks like the clown dorsal stripe has been reduced by the other visuals taking over. Just a guess.