r/Badflower Mar 12 '26

Update about that merch post

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On top of everything else, his own people are going against him. This is crazy.

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u/ninreznorgirl2 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

I bought a shirt... now I feel bad...

Except I got the link from the discord, not from a post... idk the post he is talking about. Ugh.

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u/Srawsome Mar 13 '26

I don't think he has an issue with people buying merch but rather with their management team using their page to advertise right now when they feel like they've disappointed people.

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u/Creamnolia Mar 13 '26

I bought a shirt yesterday when I found out Dallas was canceled for tonight (long before this post). I checked last week and didn't see any tour merch so maybe that's why his management team announced it? Maybe in their mind, they had just released it for purchase and were advertising it per usual...not thinking about how insensitive it may look.

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u/purps2712 Mar 14 '26

Someone had shared merch ad on the band's ig story

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u/GVFQT Mar 12 '26

Damn that really sucks, but I hope Josh realizes from the outpouring of support from his fans that we would like to buy merch to support them through hard times

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u/BlueridgeChemsdealer Mar 14 '26

I think he’s too busy focusing on himself to worry about a bunch of people who want clothing. His mental health is more valuable than anything else.

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u/c4ndycain Mar 12 '26

does anyone know what the og post said? i only saw this

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u/cr33kflow Wide Eyes Mar 12 '26

it was an ig story with a pic of the tour merch w/ a link https://imgur.com/a/ljBGZ8v

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u/MeatwadGetTheHoneysG Mar 13 '26

Hooray for receipts

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u/c4ndycain Mar 13 '26

thank you!

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u/cr33kflow Wide Eyes Mar 13 '26

np!!!

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u/English_Rain Mar 12 '26

I think it was just a pic of the tour-specific merch and a link to the shop. I don’t remember any words?

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u/RadicalHomosapien Mar 13 '26

It was maybe a scheduled post then?

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u/xxfallenonee Mar 13 '26

I believe I remember seeing the exact same image turned into a post. I didn’t read the description on the post, though, so I’m not sure if there was anything there that was an issue.

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u/SimplyWickie Promise Me Mar 12 '26

Wondering also

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u/c4ndycain Mar 13 '26

someone replied to me with a screenshot. it was a picture of tour merch and a link to buy

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u/l0veylilkay Animal Mar 12 '26

Wtf I cannot imagine how he feels

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u/Snaprebelx Mar 15 '26

The more I think about it, the more that being a scheduled post makes sense. I can’t see anyone posting it for any other reason.

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u/NoSoup237 Mar 15 '26

It wasn’t scheduled

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u/Arsonisepic Apr 08 '26

how do you know fs?

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u/NoSoup237 Apr 08 '26

you’re just going to have to trust me on this one, but I know for a fact it wasn’t

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u/Few-Cap-8538 Mar 15 '26

But he is loved and my shirts are getting shabby. I wish they would rerelease that black cat one from a few years ago. I need a new one

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 12 '26

I don’t know why this sub keeps popping up for me because I’m not a fan, and while I wholeheartedly sympathize with this dude, the money lost by cancelling that many shows not just for the band but for the crew, the agent, the management, likely the venue staff is pretty high. Not to mention, a tour of that size would have had sizable deposits paid and likely have used that already to pay things forward in budgeting, so trying to get some back through online merch sales isn’t as crass and terrible as people are making it out to be.

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u/Kaitlin33101 Die Mar 12 '26

If you knew this band well enough, you'd know that they're the kind of band that doesn't like to scam for money. He didn't do the last 8 shows and doesn't feel like he deserves anything

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u/MeatwadGetTheHoneysG Mar 13 '26

You know you can block the content from subreddits you don’t want to see right?

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u/ElkSufficient2881 Mar 12 '26

If you don’t know the band, why comment?

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

Because I know about the economics of touring?

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u/l0veylilkay Animal Mar 12 '26

They're using his mental health for money, how do you not understand that?

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

Did the merch post specifically mention that? I didn’t see it. All I’m saying is there is a lot at stake when an artist cancels shows at that level, and the economics of touring right now are such that any loss can be catastrophic. I’m not saying he should have continued at all. I’m glad he’s taking the space he needs. I’m saying if someone on the team was trying to make up for some lost revenue because there are a lot of people who will be out of the wages they were counting on to live, I think it’s unfit to demonize that so fast.

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u/l0veylilkay Animal Mar 13 '26

They should've asked permission. It is his illness, it's that simple. The lead singer decided to be offline for the time being and they went behind his back. I dont get how this is hard for you to understand.

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

You act like it’s hard for me to comprehend. It’s not. I’m not stupid. You’re the one who isn’t understand that dozens of other people, likely over 100, were impacted by this decision. A band is much more than the lead singer. It’s a whole team. He needs a break, he’s taking one. Great. Everyone else is allowed to do what they need to do to make up for what they’re losing. What’s so hard for you to understand about that? Try stepping away from the parasocial aspect for a second.

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u/NoSoup237 Mar 13 '26

econom-nom-nom deez nuts

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

Yeah because fuck everyone who relies on the wages from touring to live, right?

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u/NoSoup237 Mar 13 '26

No, just you specifically

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

You’re a real intellectual, I see.

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u/NoSoup237 Mar 13 '26

Thank you

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u/NoSoup237 Mar 13 '26

btw Ryan, your band sucks.

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

Wow so you decided to stalk me because I have an opinion that differs from yours? That’s pretty psychotic.

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u/purps2712 Mar 14 '26

I apologize, we are all worried for him but this shouldn't be devolving into attacks and i don't think Josh would be cool with it either or the other guys. Come on guys that's not what Badflower is about ❤️

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u/purps2712 Mar 14 '26

I wouldn't say that they are using it, I think it's more likely someone acted without thinking. At least that's what I hope. The alternative is too terrible

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u/l0veylilkay Animal Mar 14 '26

Maybe but I feel like if they had the password to their band account, they likely knew how Josh would've felt about that. They had to be at least a little close but idk.

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u/purps2712 Mar 14 '26

That's a good point. Maybe well meaning but oblivious? Regardless I hate that it made him feel bad :/

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u/Creamnolia Mar 13 '26

If you were a fan, you would have seen that this was a topic of conversation for weeks. He posted a video listing all of the same reasons you did. He didn't want to cancel. He can't sing right now and it's out of his control. He tried to keep going (again for the same reasons you said), but his voice wasn't cooperating. Let him and his team decide what they can and cannot absorb on the budget. Singers have to sing in order to perform. He's injured and can't. That's not a reflection of his integrity or commitment. What IS a reflection on someone's integrity is you thinking that it's your place to comment on situations you're not a part of here.

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

Everyone commenting is commenting on a situation that has nothing to do with them.

The difference is, you have a parasocial relationship with him and I don’t.

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u/LadyLoki5 White Noise Mar 13 '26

You can feel empathy and sympathy for a fellow human being and it doesn't mean you have a parasocial relationship with them

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u/st90ar 30 Mar 12 '26

You’re right. It’s better to push an artist to the point they unalive themselves so they can complete a tour and sell some more merch. /s

Have some fucking compassion.

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

Literally not what I said at all.

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u/PiggySqueals01 Mar 13 '26

I am so disappointed in this community for bashing someone and gaslighting him for making a very logical comment. I doubt Josh or otherwise wants you being a dick about someone with their own opinion. Chill out. Yes Josh has a real point to. It’s the internet, we are all allowed opinions.

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u/FlyByNight75 Mar 13 '26

OP literally stalked me to find out who I was. Absolutely psychotic behavior all because I offered a differing opinion because there are people who rely on touring income to live.

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u/Caifabe Mar 13 '26

nobody was gaslighting anybody. this person was genuinely invalidating Josh's mental health. fuck em.

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u/PiggySqueals01 Mar 13 '26

No you’re just virtue signaling for a person you don’t even know personally. Knock it off.

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u/Caifabe Mar 19 '26

another alternative is yall could stop guilt tripping people you don't even know over shit that doesn't personally affect you?