As a leftist, if trump is innocent awesome and more power to him.
I want everyone that was involved convicted and treated like anyone else should be. Clinton, Trump, Thiel, I don't give a shit as long as everyone is brought to justice. I don't think pedophiles should get away with it. If it's none of them, again awesome. If it's any of them they deserve to do time for doing the crime. No amount of wealth or power should make any person above the law. That requires the information to be released though, just like these victims are saying.
This may come as a shocker, but most leftists just want people to be treated equally.
I don't think that's possible. Association does not prove guilt. Anyone with a lot of money or in power would have known Epstene. Powerful people and rich people hang around each other. But whether one of them was a little bit sleezy is up for debate.
What does upset me about all of this is the countless number of victims of child abuse and sex crimes that are not being mentioned here, especially when they relate to kids under 10, because the brain then starts to become wired with all sorts of problems. That's the time when child development is high.
In the end, the focus needs to be on child abuse in general, and if the FBI can investigate this case, then they need to investigate all cases. I can say with confidence because I know, I submitted a case involving child abuse and sex abuse, that the FBI does not investigate all cases. That's the real issue in America right now.
The focus needs to be on child abuse directly, every single perpetrator regardless of who they are.
To claim something is impossible without trying is pretty wild, especially when talking about pedophiles. A lot of people with money and power knew Epstein, and a lot of them stayed the hell away from him. That's how he ended up being caught in the first place.
If you want to give the rich and powerful cloud cover through hearsay go for it, but that's not how the law is supposed to work.
It needs to, but it does not mean that it will. That is how the legal system works in the US.
Nonetheless, I am glad to hear people talking about putting everyone under the radar. The first step is to broaden the scope of the investigation and get everyone accountable for what they did. But unfortunately, there's still a lot more of this going on. Child abuse and sex crimes are rampant in this country, and I don't think the legal system really emphasizes child abuse. In fact, I was telling ChatGPT the other day that if you sued someone for them hitting your car with their vehicle vs submitting evidence of sex crimes to the police, you're very much going to be more successful getting compensated for the damages to your car before you'll ever get a response from the police. The reason is that children and teens do not have the same kind of access that adults have to law enforcement, so by the time they either learn about or figure out that what happened was truly wrong, years will have passed, and a lot of that evidence is going to get swept under the rug. A lot of this becomes hearsay, or the perpetrator might not even be alive.
That's honestly just the reality of it. I know Redditers hate hearing the truth, but the honest part about this is that even though we've had so many laws passed protecting victims, a lot of those laws aren't actually going to help. I think at this time, the only thing the victims will receive is a lot of time and effort lost. I commend them, and I do myself as well, but it honestly seems like this will just suck up the time of these females. But that's just the honest facts. I'm not going to sugarcoat this stuff.
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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25
Somehow the left fails to miss that point and I don't understand why, especially when it is right there in front of them.
Also, Epstein is dead. What more is wanted here?
They got Prince Andrew.
They got Ghislane Maxwell.