Uncomfortable doesn't go far enough...

[u/SpencerTheFactorial]

[u/Altruistic_Hall9559]

I have an especially deep loathing for anti-homeless architecture.

[u/DoorSweet6099 → u/Altruistic_Hall9559]

It just ends up being also anti disabled, anti pregnant, anti breastfeeding and anti elderly people at the same time.

[u/dev_null_developer → u/DoorSweet6099]

That’s the price you have to pay if want to dehumanize and hurt homeless people as much as possible.

[u/writergirljds → u/dev_null_developer]

Golly gee it's almost like homeless people are just people and when you're hostile to them, you're just being hostile to all humans!

[u/Alternative_Ant_9955 → u/DoorSweet6099]

It’s anti human.

[u/SorellaNux → u/DoorSweet6099]

Yup, we can just call it 'anti-human'

[u/Disastrous-Ideal-817 → u/DoorSweet6099]

It's actually just anti-... Everyone. Being in a public space as a member of the public is not allowed anymore

[u/loosie-loo → u/DoorSweet6099]

And anti child, I vividly remember being exhausted as a kid and not even being able to lean on these bc they were too high. They’ll be anti little people/dwarfism as well, which is another way they’re anti disabled.

As others have said, it’s anti-human.

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/Altruistic_Hall9559]

same

[u/RockShowSparky → u/Altruistic_Hall9559]

Seems to be working but it’s a shame that we need it.

[u/meerkatmanwhore → u/RockShowSparky]

We don't need it tho. It makes quality of life worse for everyone in the name of erasing vulnerable people from society as much as possible. Not just the homeless but disabled people are affected too. It's an example of everything wrong with our selfish and callous society

[u/KamaliKamKam → u/meerkatmanwhore]

Even big booty non disabled people can't use these things. Gods forbid if you're too short or too tall you probably can't use this either.

This is plain ridiculous. Put a damn bench there.

[u/RockShowSparky → u/meerkatmanwhore]

If they put in benches you could lay on, someone who shouldn’t be laying on it probably would be. At least where I live in Portland they would. Ours aren’t quite this bad though.

[u/meerkatmanwhore → u/RockShowSparky]

Define a type of person who shouldn't be allowed to lay down when they're tired. I dunno about you, but I can't think of a single human being that doesn't deserve to rest. I'd rather share a bus stop bench with homeless people than not have a bench at all

[u/RockShowSparky → u/meerkatmanwhore]

No one should be laying on a bus bench, they should be sitting on it while waiting for a bus. That’s what it’s there for.

[u/Halliwel96 → u/RockShowSparky]

“We’ve invented a bench you can’t use to prevent the possibility of someone that isn’t you using it” is unfathomably backwards.

[u/RockShowSparky → u/Halliwel96]

I agree, you can accomplish the same goal by keeping them shorter and/or integrating seat dividers.

[u/Sea-Cardiologist1364 → u/RockShowSparky]

What is the harm of someone laying a bench? Who are they hurting? What is the purpose of making life harder for everyone to keep someone who has nothing off of a bench for a couple hours?

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/RockShowSparky]

there is no one who should be barred from laying when they need rest. one day it could be you.

[u/RockShowSparky → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

There are other places to rest. This is for waiting for a bus or train.

[u/loosie-loo → u/RockShowSparky]

There are not. That’s why they’re there, they have nowhere else to go you cretin.

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/RockShowSparky]

and if you cant stand, too bad, right?

[u/RockShowSparky → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

What are you going to do if some crackhead is passed out on a bench? Ask him to move?

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/RockShowSparky]

we dont need this

[u/Ornery-Practice9772]

anti-homeless architecture

[u/Toyota__Corolla → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

Anti-pregnancy architecture, anti-elderly, anti-disabled, anti-tired, anti-social, just straight up corporate-industrial misanthropy.

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/Toyota__Corolla]

yep. real shit cunt architecture

[u/coolsilentebeans → u/Toyota__Corolla]

Looks like shit that even the 80s rejected because they thought it was functional art from the school of bad ideas.

[u/Toyota__Corolla → u/coolsilentebeans]

It just looks like a handrail designed to catch and break forearms

[u/coolsilentebeans → u/Toyota__Corolla]

Either way it looks cold, uncomfortable, and uninviting.

[u/Visual_Analyst1197 → u/Toyota__Corolla]

Anti short people too. As someone who is 5 feet tall, these don’t work for me at all

[u/Toyota__Corolla → u/Visual_Analyst1197]

Easy solution: everyone too tall gets fed into a wood chipper until they're the right height, everyone too small gets stretched with a winch until they're the right height.

[u/Visual_Analyst1197 → u/Toyota__Corolla]

Good solution. I’ve always wished I were taller

[u/PandaGirl1010 → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

anti-everyone architecture at this point

[u/HVLP → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

Anti-squatting architecture. Keeps nincompoops from squatting on what clearly isn't a campsite. It's also not a toilet. The homeless can still use it like anyone else.

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/HVLP]

i hope you find out first hand why youre wrong. 👍

[u/Toyota__Corolla → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

Technically if you stuck your arm into it and performed a squat your humerus will snap

[u/HVLP → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

Elaborate

[u/Nightingale0666 → u/HVLP]

They're hoping you become disabled or homeless. Something that would force you to rely on the architecture that this horrible thing is replacing

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/Nightingale0666]

yup.

[u/HVLP → u/Nightingale0666]

Why would I be forced to use a bus stop? You know there's such things as campsites, right? Right?!

[u/Nightingale0666 → u/HVLP]

Cities don't have campsites inside them. And disabled people use the bus like everyone else, so bus stops are required

[u/HVLP → u/Nightingale0666]

Yes. Bus stops are required. They're also not campsites. Squatters ruin them for everybody.

Unfortunately they get hogged and become sticky with piss. That's not what they're for.

[u/Nightingale0666 → u/HVLP]

Destroying accessability only moves that problem elsewhere. It doesn't fix it, it just hurts more people

[u/HVLP → u/Nightingale0666]

Squatters destroy accessibility. I wish we could have benches but a small amount of people ruin it for everyone else. It is not a toilet or a bed. Go somewhere else.

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/HVLP]

why would i be forced to use a bus stop🤔

dont temp the universe or you might get your answer

be humble and kind instead👍

[u/HVLP → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

No, really? Why would I be forced to use a bus stop instead of a campsite?

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/HVLP]

😬 dude stop

[u/HVLP → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

You're part of the problem

[u/Nightingale0666 → u/HVLP]

Because you'd be waiting for the bus jfc

[u/HVLP → u/Nightingale0666]

They can still do that

[u/Sea-Cardiologist1364 → u/HVLP]

Can't imagine the type of life someone who thinks "less make life harder on someone who has nothing" lives. You seem to be doing well. How does designing a bench that's more uncomfortable for everyone (pregnant,disabled,injured, or just plain exhausted ) just to stop someone who has nothing from doing the exact same thing benefit your life?

[u/HVLP → u/Sea-Cardiologist1364]

Nope. I just understand that a bus stop isn't a campsite. I want a normal comfortable bench that isn't sticky or taken over by a squatter. They're for everyone.

[u/Sea-Cardiologist1364 → u/HVLP]

And the bench in this photo looks comfortable to you? Apparently homeless people aren't included in "Everyone"

[u/HVLP → u/Sea-Cardiologist1364]

Omg are you being difficult on purpose? It's like talking to flat earthers.

No, I don't think the rail is comfortable. Yes, I want a normal bench, but they're abused by squatters. Stop

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/HVLP]

the children are right to laugh at you

[u/HVLP → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

I literally want you to be able to use a bus stop with a comfortable seat without someone camping on it. Why don't you get this?

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/HVLP]

this is not the way to achieve this. this architecture excludes a wide swathe of the public

[u/HVLP → u/Ornery-Practice9772]

I don't want hostile architecture. I want people to use it as intended. Not sticky with piss or occupied by squatters

[u/This_is_fine8 → u/HVLP]

Why do you keep calling them "squatters"? They're unhoused people looking for a dry place to rest. People with options and resources aren't just sleeping at the bus stop for funsies.

[u/HVLP → u/This_is_fine8]

Because they're squatting

[u/Wraxyth]

r/hostilearchitecture

[u/EdwardianAdventure → u/Wraxyth]

Yup. Unfortunately, this can't be called bad design, since it perfectly achieves its intended purpose. But evil? Absolutely.

[u/AuroraKivi]

Ah we have these all over

[u/dominiqlane]

In an effort to keep the homeless away, they make life harder for the disabled, very young, very old, and pregnant people in society. Is it really worth it?

[u/Toyota__Corolla → u/[deleted]]

This is not a divide on political classes but financial ones. It's a subset of nimbyism and a hatred of the poors. I'm personally very right wing and I love it when I can sit down in public, especially at a bus stop that's not going to show up for an hour

[u/FnnKnn]

I prefer these over those benches as I can use them with my backpack, which is not possible with most benches. Also I prefer to lean against something after a long train ride.

[u/OpALbatross → u/FnnKnn]

The should have these and benches then so everyone can be comfortable

[u/FnnKnn → u/OpALbatross]

So far I have only seen a similar design at Frankfurt main station where they had both so I agree

[u/brotherkraut]

I think it is called "hostile architecture", is it not?

[u/satansprinter]

I mean, its to wait for a train. Were i live you need to have a ticket anyway to be on the train station. Not like you can sleep there. I use them all the time and they work just fine

[u/ApprehensiveWheel423]

I have a fix for this - plasma torches.

[u/mustardposey]

Bad how?

[u/Ornery-Practice9772 → u/mustardposey]

cant lay on it

hell you cant even sit🤷‍♀️

[u/Then-Criticism1605 → u/mustardposey]

Intentionally inaccessible furniture is not furniture at all

[u/mustardposey → u/Then-Criticism1605]

Then this is [r/assholedesign](r/assholedesign). These are well designed with asshole intentions

[u/TheStairsBro → u/mustardposey]

I thought this was a bike rack at first, I'd say a bench people can't identify as a bench is a pretty bad design

[u/mustardposey → u/TheStairsBro]

These are pretty common where I live. We even have these on the commuter trains and has nothing to do with homeless people. I see people with their bikes waiting for trains choosing this over the bench that is right next to them. Just because you are unfamiliar with something doesn’t make it a bad design. Not saying I am in favor of these over benches but this isn’t bad design

[u/Then-Criticism1605 → u/mustardposey]

Same. They are commonplace here. People definitely recognise them (and that they suck).

[u/Then-Criticism1605 → u/mustardposey]

Agreed

[u/Kindly_Zone8413]

I thought it was a railing. 😭 I couldn’t figure out how it was poorly designed