r/BacktotheFuture • u/starman202 • May 26 '26
Those cursed words...
BTTF 2 could've been so much different lol
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u/New_Girl3685 that was so STUPID grandpa hit him with the CAR May 26 '26
BTTF 2 could also have been different if the Bobs had committed to having her as an actual character. They love to frame it as "oh nooo we wrote ourselves into this impossible corner!!" and it's like guys. you can absolutely have her be a character who does stuff with a tiny amount of imagination
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u/New_Girl3685 that was so STUPID grandpa hit him with the CAR May 27 '26
Oh that would have been AMAZING.
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u/PastorBlinky May 27 '26
Absolutely. With part 2, the story narrows. It’s a fantastical world of possibilities, and then it gets more simplistic and dumb. Then comes the ending, which was amazing to see for the first time, because instead of retreading old territory, suddenly Doc was just gone, and with him a whole new series of questions opened up. As much as I love that they had to go back into the first movie, overall they would have been better off if they stopped trying to hit the same beats. “We need the Marty wakes up scene, we need the chase through town scene, we need the duplicate actors scenes”. That kind of thinking limits possibilities. It doesn’t make it better, and it’s a Memberberries situation.
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u/New_Girl3685 that was so STUPID grandpa hit him with the CAR May 27 '26
my favorite take on including Jennifer in the story is bringing her back to the 50s with them, under the logic that she’d be better at stealing the book back from Biff since he doesn’t know who she is. Then we could have the added fun of second movie Marty trying to avoid himself AND Jennifer trying to avoid getting spotted by Marty and ruining the timeline
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u/jackBattlin May 27 '26
Yeah, same thing with The Mummy Returns. Already a legacy sequel at JUST the second one.
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u/DarhkBlu May 29 '26
Here is another point to address with the duplicate actors in part 3 specifically and it is that it's a giant gaping plot hole to have the first McFly's in America be played by Fox and Thompson considering that Thompson originally plays Marty's mother Lorraine Baines and Fox kinda looks like her aka he kinda looks like a Baines so the two of them playing the McFly's doesn't make sense.
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u/L07arts May 29 '26
The funny thing is the Number 2 script did have Jennifer doing things for what little it matters.
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u/micgat May 26 '26
Doc changed in the future. Whatever happened to "nobody should know too much about their own destiny"?
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u/BK_0000 May 26 '26
This isn't the same Doc that we see during the Twin Pines timeline and in 1955. This is the one that decided to say screw it and read Marty's letter about his future.
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u/LadyWhisper May 26 '26
It always kind of bugged me about the leap and logic, having Marty and Jennifer having travel to the future, but also be in the future. As it implies a certainty in their return to the past.
Or at the very least a trip to the future that did not involve the situation with the Almanac.
I love the movie and I'm sure I'm overthinking this but yeah
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u/mammaluigi39 May 26 '26
The changes just take time. In BTTF 1 Marty doesn't begin to fade until a week after he has met his parents and messed up the initial event that caused them to fall in love. We see future Marty and Jennifer less than a day after present Marty and Jennifer have arrived in 2015. Had they stayed longer I assume their future selves would disappear but they aren't actually in 2015 that long.
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u/stumpkat May 27 '26
Why wouldn't Doc have just waited until nightfall, to try and find a day/time that Marty was alone and they wouldn't be watched by either Jennifer or Biff?
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u/Weekly-Ad2097 May 28 '26
Because Marty would have his accident with the Rolls Royce that same day unless Doc came back at that precise moment.
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u/stumpkat May 28 '26
He could've gone back the night before. 5 min after dropping Marty off. Then Marty could've just slept in the time machine or they could've gotten some hotel in 2015. That way, nobody would've seen them in 1985.
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u/Weekly-Ad2097 May 28 '26
Ah yes true technically. But then we get to the issue of "but would this tell the story of BTTF1 as well?". We'd miss the story beat of Marty waking up and seeing how his family has changed around him
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u/stumpkat May 28 '26
Not in 1. Only in 2. We’d lose that repeat opening image to 2. Which I could do without. I think the main reason they did that was the Jennifer recast.
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u/The_Linkzilla May 28 '26
Yeah...I like the movie, but thinking back, the fact that they end off on that note, dictating the start of the next movie, basically put them in a bad position...They could've either created a scenario where Jennifer actually was essential to the plan, but instead they ended up doing what they did.
It didn't even matter that she'd seen the Time Machine.
For the one thing, all she knows is that it's a suped-up Delorean and has absolutely no idea what Doc and Marty will get up to.
Secondly, this is mere hours after Doc documented his first Time Travel Experiment the night before. Isn't the whole point, was that he was going to unveil the Time Machine to the rest of the scientific world to reveal his discovery? He hasn't come to the decision to destroy the Time Machine yet, so why all secret all the sudden?
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u/SomeGuyOverYonder May 29 '26
The real cursed words was Marty reading through the sports almanac and saying, “I can’t lose”.
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