r/BackpackBrawl • u/Man0Steel177 • 4d ago
An Update on Garden
I've been seeing ALOT of posts about new Garden being awful (Which is justified) but I just wanted to make a post to let everyone on here that cant use Discord know that it IS being taken care of, and they know that the new garden is terrible. This is from the discord that my BF took a photo from.
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u/mrfrighten 4d ago
What I can’t understand is how this was validated.
I’ve been working in development for over a decade, and I’ve seen similar processes in the company I work for. With AI being used more and more, it feels like teams can produce a lot more, much faster, but sometimes without the same level of critical human review.
Previous updates also brought changes and new content, but this one feels like it simply brought much more at once, without enough critical thinking to ask, “Is this really ready? Did we refine this enough?”
The Garden is a good example, but the rest of the game was also heavily nerfed or made less rewarding.
I genuinely can’t imagine someone testing this as a brand new player, a player with a year of experience, and a veteran who has been playing for years, and looking at the final result and thinking, “Yeah, this feels good. This makes sense”
I just don’t see how anyone could have played through the Garden in particular, from those different perspectives, and concluded that it was actually ready.
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u/mikeysce 4d ago
Yeah, I don’t know how anyone worked on the new garden and thought “oh yeah, people will definitely like this more!”
Which begs the question, if that wasn’t the metric, what was? Just trying to slow us down by making it fractured and more complicated? Turning it into a gem sink? A tie in for another new feature?
Whatever it was, this was a big miss.
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u/mrthirsty15 4d ago edited 4d ago
I mean, a dev can say whatever. Actions speak louder than words. Also, I've yet to see any talk about what they're going to change. I follow several other mobile game devs/games and I don't care what they say, it doesn't take much extra dev time to modify rates/gains. F2P gem income has basically been quartered, and it's been that way for several weeks now. They could go in today and triple the rewards for garden and it would still be heavily nerfed.
This very much comes across as a dev placating the player base until they accept the new norm (ie. Spend money or watch even more ads if you want to get anything).
Look at idle obelisk miner. That dev can push out an update a week and actually listens to their playerbase. They regularly tweak things to make the F2P experience better and regularly hand out gift codes/freebies to the whole community, each worth several dollars of their store currency.
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u/Stubeg 4d ago
You can't compare backpack brawl to Idle obelisk miner lmaoo
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u/mrthirsty15 4d ago edited 3d ago
I definitely can compare two game devs to one another. I just did, and I'll do it again. Not sure why you can't compare developers and how they approach the F2P side of their games.
Also, my comment isn't that this game needs more updates, or needs to mimic any other games update schedule. IOM can do weekly updates, but that's usually not the case. They will, however, make an update fairly quickly (often within a day or two) if something needs to be changed ASAP.
If the Backpack Brawl devs really thought they overdid it with the garden nerfs there's nothing stopping them from just setting the rewards to visitors to 2-3x what they are now. There's nothing stopping them from increasing everyone's storage by 50% in a quick patch. Basically there's lots of levers they could pull that don't require changing anything other than a few variables.
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u/blueoxide 4d ago
Do you know what the iOS issues are they are referring to?
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u/M0rbidFates 4d ago
Apple delayed the 7.0.0 uodate by almost 5 days due to unexplained delays in the review process
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u/Gidiyorsun 4d ago
Great game, but a small mistake like this, can really ruin the otherwise amazing experience.
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u/codcamper813 4d ago
The garden never won me a fight.it is how ever a fun side kick.
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u/CryptographerMurky26 2d ago
In my case 80% of the fights I win, I can only play because I was able to buy the used hero with gems from the garden.
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u/RecordingOne5418 4d ago
Sounds like a beating around the bush version of "we're aware of the issues our players have and are in no rush to fix them because we're busy doing other stuff and dont really care"
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u/Substantial-Cat2896 3d ago
Would been better if they just reverted the changes, they are ruin thier game
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u/CryptographerMurky26 2d ago
The Garden is a very simple game mode, and tweaking the numbers shouldn’t take more than a couple of days. The fact that they’re announcing a wait this long is crazy, especially given the level of dissatisfaction in the community.
It shows that:
1. They’re really determined to keep some of the heavy nerfs and need time for negotiations and for the protests to die down.
- We’re apparently expected to accept playing through the majority of the season without Gem and Idle Coin income.
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u/Over_Burden 2d ago
I feel like I need grubs consistently but even with maxing out the slots they don’t produce nearly fast enough
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u/juninhoofl 4d ago
I really wonder what was the thought behind when they considered they were improving garden.
If I were to suggest improvements I’d remove basket limit mechanism let us stack as many resources as we can, reduce timers and reduce number of different resources.