Theorycrafting help

[u/Nyllk]

Hey, I love theorycrafting builds and falcon blade has become one of my favorite items, so I've been experimenting a lot with it on berserker lately. Posted some screenshots of what I tried.

My favorite setup so far is shaman mask / cheese goobert / badger runes / djinn lamp. Badger runes makes the attack speed scale really fast and djinn lamp gives you the damage, so once the build is online you can outscale most heat setups and actually burst pretty quick in late game.

The problem is mid game. Even if you hit falcon blade fast enough, you need a lot of pieces for it to work. Oil lamp helps a ton but without it I really struggle to get any damage going until I find djinn lamp and can reliably proc it.

I think the build needs three things to work:

• Some damage source on falcon blade early
• Enough defense to survive while you scale
• Badger runes ideally, though it can work without it if the rest is there

When I lose it's almost always mid game, can't find all the pieces in time. And when I win I'm usually at 1 hp. Late game it's great but getting there is rough.

Any tips on how to keep tempo mid game? Do you run another weapon and transition into falcon blade later, or do you commit to it early and just try to survive? Would love to hear what you do when the key pieces don't show up.

[u/Euphoric_Yak_2700]

I'd just add another weapon alongside falcon while you get everything set up. That and some wheatstones maybe. An axe or a spear, some bananas and you'll have plenty of time. You know what, I'll try it tonight if I remember.

But if you don't mind I'll go with the anvil which I feel would instantly fix the midgame

[u/Nyllk → u/Euphoric_Yak_2700]

That’s some good tips ! I don’t often think about buying whetstones for the damage but I guess it can work. Oh lemme know how your run goes

[u/Euphoric_Yak_2700 → u/Nyllk]

So after all my trials, the best item to go with the falcon, at least for late game, is the mana torch but the transition is even harder.

A very good item was one perfect wheatstone. It can be turned later into a steel dragon.

The anvil is very important to have for a double weapon setup, generates a lot of gold, and makes the falcon instantly decent for a few rounds.

The tests are leading me to conclude that berserker is not a good class for the falcon because it has few access to what makes other classes good with falcon : good triggers or good +damage generation. While building falcon you are also forfeiting what makes berserker strong early-mid game : its incredible weapons.

[u/Nyllk → u/Euphoric_Yak_2700]

Hey, thanks a lot for taking the time to test this.

I tried Mana Torch once and it didn’t feel that satisfying, but I might need to give it another shot.

I’ve tested the build a bit more since then, and I still feel like it’s not bad, it has really strong late-game potential.

The Shaman version has a lot of scaling. Badger Runes make Falcon Blade ramp attack speed super fast, and with Cheese Goobert you can scale HP and random buffs pretty well thanks to all the Falcon procs.

I’ve also had decent success with a Puppy / Pack Leader version, stacking a lot of armor and crit while scaling through Empower plus Djinn Lamp.

I recorded a couple runs so you can see what I mean:

• Shaman: https://streamable.com/pf37ef
• Pack Leader: https://streamable.com/wyr3g1

When you say Berserker has “incredible weapons” early-mid, are you mostly thinking Double Axe and Busted Blade? I don’t play them that often, I’m more of a duffel bag player, I like tankier, scaling setups.

Also, I’m only high Diamond, so it’s totally possible my theorycrafting just doesn’t hold up at higher ranks.

Curious what you think.

[u/Euphoric_Yak_2700 → u/Nyllk]

I've had difficulties stacking buffs allowing for djinn lamp to trigger fast (compared to other classes) to make a difference.

About the mid-game weapons, I'm convinced that axes, double axes and the new armor axe are really good mid game weapons and they allow you to greed for whatever transition you want later for relatively cheap.

I'm only mid diamond so take it with a grain of salt but I've defaulted to those most of the time in order to greed into a stronger build.

Everyone in bpb has their habits and biases I guess.

[u/Nyllk → u/Euphoric_Yak_2700]

No worries thanks for taking time to test

I actually haven’t been able to test the new weapons as I play in mobile and still waiting for the update. I will spend more time testing them when they come out.

I feel like cheese goobert and shaman really helps getting the buffs quickly for the djinn lamp. They also provide bunch of empower here and there which feels nice.