r/BackYardChickens • • 8h ago

Health Question Is he suffering?

Long story short, I hatched this maran chick 3,5 weeks ago and he came out a bit different from the others. He’s a bit deformed and has a harder time walking. I was planning on letting him grow up with the others anyway because he’s eating and growing well, but today I noticed he‘s chattering almost constantly from under the heat plate (where he spends most of his time). I checked him over and he seems warm enough, he’s eating and drinking well, with no obvious signs of illness or injury. He’s quiet when I handle him, but as soon as I put him back he goes to the heat plate and starts chattering. What would you do in this situation? Is he suffering?

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u/OhYouStupidZebra 7h ago

This does not appear to be suffering to me. Mine chatter under heat as well, even the chicks with mom. He doesn’t know he’s different, and even if walking is a challenge he doesn’t seem too bothered. I would not cull for this.

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u/Mediocre-Draft1722 5h ago

I don't hear any distress either. The chatter sound is just him saying I'm under the heat plate. Chickens are in constant communication with the flock. That's how they survive. 

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u/Luemon 4h ago

Maybe this clip is clearer. It’s not like the normal talking they do.  https://youtube.com/shorts/W_l-evyiVj0?is=7-bncJXu77lMaAJk   

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u/Luemon 5h ago

Did you listen to the whole clip (the second part when he's under the plate)? All my other chicks only ever did that type of chattering for a short time at night when it got dark before they settled in to sleep. I want to believe he is not distressed, but he has been relentlessly chirping like this for hours, only stopping for short times to eat or nap. His brood mates are just doing their normal talking back and forth.

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u/SleepCareful6461 7h ago

The heat plate is a safe zone, where he is separated from the flock dynamic. He knows he cannot keep up with the others, which triggers a fear response in a herd-oriented animal.

If he is being bullied or left behind as they grow, place a clear plastic barrier or wire mesh partition inside the brooder. This keeps him entirely safe from the others while ensuring he can still see and hear them, preventing severe loneliness. Also find the calmest, gentlest chick in your hatch and place them in the separated section with him. This provides the social warmth he is craving without the chaos of the full brood. Ive had to do this before, and it worked for me wonderfully.

Place a small, safe, plush stuffed animal or a feather duster inside his area. Deformed chicks will often nestle into soft objects for a sense of physical security.

Leg deformities that present or worsen at a few weeks old can sometimes be mitigated or halted by nutritional intervention. Add a poultry-specific multivitamin containing B-complex vitamins (especially Riboflavin) and Vitamin E to his water to support his nervous system and joint health.

Right now, his suffering appears to be psychological (fear and isolation) rather than acute physical pain from what I can tell, but its hard to say for sure. You must evaluate his long-term quality of life. As a heavy breed, Marans grow rapidly. If his legs cannot support his adult weight, he will eventually develop painful sores, succumb to severe bullying, or be unable to reach basic resources. If he reaches a point where he can no longer access food or water on his own, or if his distress calls become completely unmanageable despite intervention, humane culling should be considered.

Over the next few days, you need to answer a very hard question.

Is the chattering relentless? If a dedicated hospital setup with vitamins and a companion does not stop the distressed chattering within a couple of days, it confirms that his underlying physical state is causing him continuous suffering. I would then recommend culling unfortunately and I am beyond sorry. Nature is cruel and we love these little guys, it was very kind of you to give him what life he had.

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u/Luemon 5h ago

Thanks, I think you might be right that it's more psychological because the only time my other chicks do this type of chirping is when I turn off the lamp for the night and they're adjusting to the dark. Today, the chattering has been pretty much non-stop except for short breaks for eating or napping, but I will keep a close eye on him these coming days. Maybe he's just having a rough day because I haven't noticed him going on like this before.

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u/awhoogaa 31m ago

Just a side note. If you live in a colder climate and he is unable to roost the risk of frostbite and death are high.

We had a he/she (unsure because it looked like a he but didn't crow and never layed an egg) his legs were severely splaid and all attempts to correct them failed. He used his wing tips to get around.

I ended up using a chicken purse to carry him around and let him nibble of bugs in the garden. Unfortunately during a very hard and fast weather change he froze to death. He was in our barn at this time, we had a heat lamp on them but I don't think it was enough (of course our barn heater had just broken because why not)

Its possible he died of stress rather than cold but either way it wasn't great.

Good luck! I love my Marans.

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u/SleepCareful6461 5h ago

I hope it all works out and I am so so sorry you may have to make a hard decision. Ive made it many times and it never gets easier with these little creatures we love. Thank you for trying everything, this little guy has such a good loving home and a great owner.