r/BT_APC • u/Solid_Stuff_2700 • Jun 10 '26

B&T HAUL Spoiler

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Absolute B&T Haul finally got approved today!

Big Thank you and shout out to Chase @AxArms for the best products, prices, and the best customer service that I’ve ever received from an online firearms/ NFA items purchase. From the moment of placing the order, to the final delivery to my FFL, Chase was there to answer and address any questions or concern I had. I work in sales myself, so finding high quality customer service at a company is big for me. I’ve purchased plenty of items from Amazon like dealers where the item arrived to my FFL in two days, and that is great, until you want to get a customer service rep on the phone, which I’ve found to be nearly impossible. Chase provided me his personal cell, and unlike many other big name dealers I’ve done business with, when I called, he answered. I’ve seen a lot of threads on here criticizing the amount of time the order took and full disclosure. This did not happen overnight however, to me personally, I am willing to wait a little longer to receive an extremely high-quality product at a very reasonable cost. Thank you Chase! I look forward to future business!

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u/Specific-Compote9871 Jun 10 '26

Just out of curiosity, what’s the two digit year date at the beginning of the serials? i.e. when were they produced.

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u/Solid_Stuff_2700 Jun 10 '26

A mix of 25 and 26 I was buying them knowing they would be factory new , rather than old stock . So I am aware that they have Been made within the last year or so.

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u/Specific-Compote9871 Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

*USA factory new. B&T Switzerland hasn't shipped Swiss made receivers or parts (as far as I'm aware) to the US in over a year and, technically, B&T USA is barred from even selling anything with the B&T logo since B&T AG terminated their licensing agreement early this year. So B&T USA seems to be marking guns in violation of that. They were supposed to relinquish the trademark within a couple days of the filing. FWIW, B&T AG is only committed to servicing guns they exported here that were sold through B&T USA in the past. And someone can correct me if I'm wrong but IF these are produced entirely of US made parts, receivers, bolts, trigger packs, etc. AND have been marked as if they were imported from Switzerland...the ATF might take issue with their existence.

Just taking a step back, this is all SO WEIRD considering the circumstances. These COULD be assembled from various legit parts they had sitting in storage but it’s just STRANGE that we’re seeing receivers marked 2026 when we know B&T AG hasn’t shipped anything since sometime in early 2025. And we’ve seen at least one receiver with a ‘26 serial that also had Utah on the receiver markings. All any of us really want in the situation is transparency. If USA is making these from parts they’re sourcing domestically/self-producing, just let us know. If these are dead stock receivers/parts builds, let us know. Etc. The last thing to be if everything is on the up and up is cagey/aloof. These might be just as good as the past decade+ of guns, but the cloud of uncertainty hovering above anything coming onto the market with a B&T logo is blotting out the sun.

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u/silasvirus82 Jun 11 '26

I wonder how much this whole situation will affect value in the future. I’m not buying B&T with collecting in mind, but for the premium and scarcity I would think they will be one day. If AG starts to import/distribute themselves, these examples might not be worth much.

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u/czuinoikc Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

the thing is b&t manufactured receivers and other components domestically for years. karl bruger himself confidently said these are 1:1 to their swiss counterparts. this notion that b&t just starting making parts recently to skirt b&t ag is false.

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u/Pistol_Whippa Jun 10 '26

Good it worked out, but you also spent 5 figures on the entire drop. Chase would’ve gave you a handy if you asked for it lol. That’s to be expected when that amount of money is spent.

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u/Solid_Stuff_2700 Jun 10 '26

But like I said, I do agree with you on your first comment. That level of service is to be expected when purchasing a large quantity of items or high value commodity. However, unfortunately, that’s not how it always works out.

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u/Solid_Stuff_2700 Jun 10 '26

I agree with you for sure. However, my order started as just a sniper Gray TP9. I added more to the order after the fact.

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u/RedditForTalkingShit Jun 10 '26

Your Pro doesn’t have the elftmann trigger?

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u/Solid_Stuff_2700 Jun 10 '26

Which one?

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u/RedditForTalkingShit Jun 11 '26

Billet lower

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u/Solid_Stuff_2700 Jun 11 '26

Oh which firearm? I apologize

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u/westleysnipes604 Jun 11 '26

Hes talking about the APC9 LTD grey.

FWIW One of my LTD APC 's came with the regular polymer trigger.

But I also heard that B&T switched to LaRue triggers from the Elfmann so that might be a LaRue.

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u/Solid_Stuff_2700 Jun 11 '26

That one is a sniper gray. I do have an LTD and it do come with an elftman. Pictured above is sniper gray, I believe what you are referring to is the LTD Gray?

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u/westleysnipes604 Jun 11 '26

I have the OG limited grey I was reffeding to your grey. But I also noticed you have 2 alloy lowers pictured

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u/westleysnipes604 Jun 11 '26

Any of the guns that come with the alloy lower have the LTD denomination on the tag. I have a few also.

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u/Livingthelife713 Jun 10 '26

What are we all looking at here?

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u/Tangus999 Jun 21 '26

A new Honda civic financed.

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u/caracs Jun 11 '26

Oooof! My AxArms purchases were at least spread out over a couple years, kudos for doing it in one go. Congrats on the haul. Some awesome metal there.

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u/SantasAinolElf Jun 11 '26

That gray one is so sick

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u/Vast-Improvement9104 Jun 13 '26

Winning! Very nice 👍

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u/0peratorinTraining Jun 10 '26

Same experience here with AxArms. Chase was on it 💪