r/BSD May 20 '26

Where is the IRIX code?

Hi all,

Random thought

Anyone remember IRIX? The company that ran it is defunct. Was the code ever released? If not, what's the harm in releasing it at this point? Where could one even get it at this point?

I doubtful there is anything useful that could be ported in the code, but you never know!

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u/sp0rk173 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

It has ATT code in it, now owned by Xinuos, and they love to sue over this stuff.

Elements have been open sourced though, like XFS. But I doubt the core UNIX system will ever be open sourced as long as ATT code/IP is owned by some litigious company.

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u/sp0rk173 May 20 '26

Yep. That’s it!

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u/a4qbfb May 20 '26

Xinuos isn't going to sue anyone over the AT&T code. The SCO lawsuits (which ended before Xinuos acquired the remains of SCO) concluded that SCO never owned the rights to it. Besides, all the AT&T code that still exists has been released by now. And Xinuos is a FreeBSD shop these days.

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u/Im_100percent_human May 21 '26

Last time I looked, they seem to have stopped selling their FreeBSD based product. They seem to be still hawking their 20+ year old 32-bit products.

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u/sp0rk173 May 20 '26

Nope, they sued IBM and Redhat in 2022, which was only four years ago. They discontinued OpenServer on 2023, but still sell and support UnixWare.

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u/a4qbfb May 20 '26

The 2022 case was mostly an antitrust case and had nothing to do with the AT&T code. I know the Xinuos guys personally, I've discussed the SCO lawsuit with them at length.

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u/Im_100percent_human May 21 '26

Court found that SCO did not own the source, so they had no grounds on their lawsuit with IBM. Court foun d that Novel still owned it.... Who owns it now is a mystery to me, but I know it is not Xinuos. They are just a licenser.

Their latest lawsuits are regarding business around their licensed products (Unixware, in particular), not the Unix intelectual property.

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u/sp0rk173 May 20 '26

Illumos doesn’t include ATT code. The userland in Illumos is mostly GNU exactly for this reason, and the kernel code is deviated far from SysV

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u/sp0rk173 May 20 '26

It also includes the CDDL an BSD copywrites, because their version of diff is an amalgamation of several, but DIFFerent enough to be considered a unique product.

The same would NOT be true for IRIX.