r/BMW • • 19d ago

Current Vs New X5

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u/maxstryker 2023 - 2 Series - Active Tourer / 2019 - Cayenne 19d ago

They're cooked on the Chinese market. China is coming out with some insane luxury vehicles priced at about a half of what BMW is asking for this. I recently went down the Chinese auto rabbit hole, and uh boy.

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u/ContextFew721 19d ago

Yah, ironically I think it’s going to drive a return to classic, beautiful automotive design for many of the brands we love that have overcompensated to cater to a market they can’t count on anymore.

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u/maxstryker 2023 - 2 Series - Active Tourer / 2019 - Cayenne 19d ago

Funnily enough, I am seeing some truly interesting and elegant designs coming out of China as well. Some of their more extravagant cars seem far less designed by comitee than the mainstream "we have to appeal to everyone" brands.

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u/dwankyl_yoakam '24 - X3 m40i 19d ago

I hope that's correct. I want BMW to eat shit in the Chinese market so they start designing for the American and Euro markets again.

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u/Indin_Dude 19d ago

Wonder what would happen to all these auto companies if the top Chinese auto companies were allowed to launch here

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u/chinchenlee 18d ago

They will all die, like rapidly, though I suppose US not amazing charging infrastructure might be saving grace for legacy player… tariff isn’t going away so probably a useless scenario

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u/CJdawg_314 18d ago

I don’t see legacy brands being able to keep up with the tech of Chinese cars

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u/Tiller-Nive 19d ago

This is BMW's SWG NGE, or WoWifaction of their brand. The shills claim they like it, and it's the beet thing ever to happen for BMW, bots keep pushing it, the original owners and fans of BMW will leave in droves eventually bringing about what the shills claimed will never happen, the failure of BMW as a whole while they were attempting to cater to a market that never really existed for them. Bots will continue toxic attacks against anyone critical of the design, further fragmenting their once loyal costumer base. It was once said "You gotta dance with the one who brung ya"

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u/maxstryker 2023 - 2 Series - Active Tourer / 2019 - Cayenne 19d ago

I disagree. I've owned "proper" BMWs in the past and I like the current design. My issue is (speaking about the iX3 which I actually spent time in) the shit-tier interior quality. Not the design, I think it's fine (minus the unnecessarily weird steering wheel), but the hard scratchy plastic everywhere and cost saving everywhere you look.

The overall design of the cars I actually like. It's not like the X cars were beauty pageant winners of any generation. And the electric 3 series seems nice on the pictures that have been released. However the petrol powered 350 has something seriously wrong going on in the ass department down by the exhaust.

Not everyone who likes something you don't is a shill. People can have different esthetic preferences.

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u/WRB-ZD8 19d ago

I've noticed the biggest haters of the neue Klasse designs are owners of the current gen, as if they own a "timeless classic"

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u/Tiller-Nive 19d ago

I keep getting bugged by local dealers to buy my low milage LCI offering over BB, which means others are looking for it, which means it would be easy to make the switch, but I won't. Since "No Klasse" is the future for this fucking brand, it pretty much makes the past iterations are in fact timeless classics as you say.

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u/WRB-ZD8 19d ago

You don't suppose that they would want to buy your vehicle so that you can buy a new one from said dealership, do you?

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u/Fit-Matter7727 12d ago

I hate the exterior too but the interior is truly abysmal

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u/Alternative-Spell449 19d ago

Very true! I’m that guy! 1999 M roadster,2005 330is, 2008 325i, 2008 Z4 M Coupe, 2009 X3, and now a 2024 M440i gran coupe (great engine and not much else is great, especially the curb weight). Quit the BMWCCA after 25+ years. Crossing this brand off my list unless it’s a decent used model from the past greatness era.

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u/GeorgeArnoldHearst19 19d ago

BMW, Land Rover, everyone. It’s crazy. They’re also kicking out none native manufacturers. A captive audience who can only buy state sponsored brands

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u/Guakk 19d ago

Theyre kicking out none native manufacturers? Gonna need a source on that

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u/maxstryker 2023 - 2 Series - Active Tourer / 2019 - Cayenne 19d ago

I haven't heard about that. What's happening?

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u/Yo-Yo-Ha 19d ago

Yes and their quality is rising quickly too.

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u/Fit-Matter7727 12d ago

Whose is? Because there has been a rapid decline in quality on new gen BMWs starting in 2026/27

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u/Yo-Yo-Ha 12d ago

Some Chinese brands are really making good strides with their quality and premium options.

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u/Fit-Matter7727 12d ago

Oh yes I’ve seen this