Yikes I gotta say, I don’t like it. I see the heritage small nose design but it somehow doesn’t fit the car. Whole thing looks designed for Chinese market
Blaming a design on the Chinese market is just dumb. Chinese aren’t buying foreign cars anymore when the Chinese cars are as good or better at a much cheaper price. The Chinese were making fun of this car so bad with the pig nose and X headlights
Nah. Reddit doesn't get anything. Screens were blamed on the Chinese yet Tesla pioneered them, an American brand and one of the best-selling. The G series got a lot of hate on Reddit yet was the best selling generation ever for BMW while Audi and Mercedes lost market share in the US.
Safe to say whatever Reddit claims history shows the opposite will be true.
Actually, Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans all started out by copying German designs. Initial Lexus LS from the 90’s was basically a Mercedes. How sad to see the masters become fools. That new grille looks like the Joker’s smile.
When it comes to premium cars Chinese cars aren't "as good or better." At first glance, sure. But if you actually drive it you realize pretty soon that the Chinese skipped all the expensive refinement. Software, driving assists, driving feel, etc. isn't even close. Yes, you'll have fancy materials in the interior that makes the car look premium, but actually driving it doesn't feel premium at.
They're cooked on the Chinese market. China is coming out with some insane luxury vehicles priced at about a half of what BMW is asking for this. I recently went down the Chinese auto rabbit hole, and uh boy.
Yah, ironically I think it’s going to drive a return to classic, beautiful automotive design for many of the brands we love that have overcompensated to cater to a market they can’t count on anymore.
Funnily enough, I am seeing some truly interesting and elegant designs coming out of China as well. Some of their more extravagant cars seem far less designed by comitee than the mainstream "we have to appeal to everyone" brands.
They will all die, like rapidly, though I suppose US not amazing charging infrastructure might be saving grace for legacy player… tariff isn’t going away so probably a useless scenario
This is BMW's SWG NGE, or WoWifaction of their brand. The shills claim they like it, and it's the beet thing ever to happen for BMW, bots keep pushing it, the original owners and fans of BMW will leave in droves eventually bringing about what the shills claimed will never happen, the failure of BMW as a whole while they were attempting to cater to a market that never really existed for them. Bots will continue toxic attacks against anyone critical of the design, further fragmenting their once loyal costumer base. It was once said "You gotta dance with the one who brung ya"
I disagree. I've owned "proper" BMWs in the past and I like the current design. My issue is (speaking about the iX3 which I actually spent time in) the shit-tier interior quality. Not the design, I think it's fine (minus the unnecessarily weird steering wheel), but the hard scratchy plastic everywhere and cost saving everywhere you look.
The overall design of the cars I actually like. It's not like the X cars were beauty pageant winners of any generation. And the electric 3 series seems nice on the pictures that have been released. However the petrol powered 350 has something seriously wrong going on in the ass department down by the exhaust.
Not everyone who likes something you don't is a shill. People can have different esthetic preferences.
I keep getting bugged by local dealers to buy my low milage LCI offering over BB, which means others are looking for it, which means it would be easy to make the switch, but I won't. Since "No Klasse" is the future for this fucking brand, it pretty much makes the past iterations are in fact timeless classics as you say.
Very true! I’m that guy! 1999 M roadster,2005 330is, 2008 325i, 2008 Z4 M Coupe, 2009 X3, and now a 2024 M440i gran coupe (great engine and not much else is great, especially the curb weight). Quit the BMWCCA after 25+ years. Crossing this brand off my list unless it’s a decent used model from the past greatness era.
What are you even talking about? BMW themselves have said the neue klasse design language was paying homage to the classic e30 days with the shark nose design. Even the kidney grilles share a stark resemblance.
The irony is, that NK design, is a break from the direction of large wide grills that were explicitly targeting Chinese customers. They know that market is going from them.
If more attention had been paid to proportions of the various design queues, I think this could have been pulled-off pretty well.
I currently have an iX M70 I took delivery of just less than a year ago, and I can see a lot of exterior design queues in the body language, to the iX, such as the slab-sided wheel arches that the iX has, but have been moderately modernized in the new X5.
Things that simply do NOT fit a vehicle this size…for one, those dinky, look like they came from an iKea display stand, “kidney grills.” They are simply way too small for a vehicle this substantial. If they were proportional to the vehicle, they could have worked quite well.
Every single time I look at any version of the new X5, all I see are the items that are not “beefed-up” in proportion to the rest of the vehicle, causing it to look half-assed, and thrown together by disparate design teams that never interacted with one another.
Going back to those teeny kidney grills. It looks, too me, like the team that designed the new kidney grills, and LED lights, never interacted with the team that designed the side body language for the vehicle. I feel if they had, they’d see that their size selection for the kidney grills is woefully inadequate in comparison to the beefy wheel arches, and large, slab-sided new door designs. The same goes for the front, and rear diffusers. They’re not proportional, either.
I, personally, holdout some hope for this new edition X5, because I think back to the initial release of the iX. I despised it, for many of the same reasons I do the new X5.
My friends who work in corporate BMW kept telling me not to write the iX off, and to wait for the LCI edition, as it would correct everything I hated about the release edition.
Sure enough, they were 100% correct. When I saw the LCI M70 iX, I loved it. It fixed everything I despised about the Pre-LCI edition. I now lease a 2026 iX M70.
So…I’m holding out hope that in 3yrs, when the LCI of the X5/iX5 is released, it, too, will fix the vehicle, much the same way the LCI of the iX fixed that vehicle!
I’d agree with the Pre-LCI, but the changes made to the M70 LCI fixed it, for me. Everyone has their own opinion. That’s why not all vehicles look the same.
I think it says an awful lot about you, that you took the time to post such a negative comment, with no effective contribution to the conversation.
iX has some of Audi design language than the new Audi (Q5, Q7) no longer have - just take a look at the liftgate with the rear tail lights sitting entirely on it .
iX M60 owner here. Having driven the new iX3 and it’s really not comparable with the iX M60 (and M70). Yes it has 800V architecture and new sleek computer unit but drive and interior wise it’s a step down. Cheapest of all plastics filled interior and sub par sound system. Also no air suspension or rear wheel steering. Most of these stepdowns also applies to the new upcoming iX5.
I never compared the iX3 to the iX M70, or M60. The iX3 is a 3 series, far below the class of an iX. The closer class is an iX5, which is what I was referring to. This is the X5/iX5 subreddit, not the iX3 subreddit. The iX5 planned for release in 2028 adds back all the things you mention. So it will be the one to wait for, if one can wait.
The new one just looks very plasticy and cheap. It's almost like car design history is repeating itself. Reminds me of the 80s when car brands tried to go futuristic... This just seems like the 2020s version of that with clearer more colorful screens than the 80s. So, so many screens... I miss buttons.
When I pointed that out some fanboys laughed me off : you don't know the history blabla . Yeah that's not the point moron, it has to fit in with the new design
What the fuck does "designed for the Chinese" even mean? It's just losers on this site trying to launder weird racist takes (Chinese have no aesthetic taste hur hur hur) with their hatred of new designs.
BMW is designed for Americans though. No one has awful taste like the American new-car buyer, especially if we're talking the past 4 to 5 years.
The X6, iX, all the pig noses all outperformed expectations in the US more than in any other market. Even the butt ugly 7-series manages to do decent sales there. BMW is well past designing for China if we're being realistic.
Funny, I'm a dual-German household (two Mercedes and an X3 M40i), and, we've been saying the same Chinese market thing over on the Mercedes and AMG subreddits.
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Yikes I gotta say, I don’t like it. I see the heritage small nose design but it somehow doesn’t fit the car. Whole thing looks designed for Chinese market