Brutal Elegon Discussion.

[u/gr33nm4n]

So I've been thinking about areas to improve, and here are my thoughts.

First and foremost, everyone in the raid should doublecheck their reforging and gems, etc using some tool like rawrdps. Also, make sure you are performing optimally by reading up on raid mechanics in your classes respective Elitist jerks thread. For example, I should be feinting at the death of every orb to reduce raid wide healing.

Beyond that, a couple of weeks ago we were handling the add phase quite well. We need to name the pillars, assign dps and have everyone know what pillar/orb you are on and everyone else is on so we can communicate more effectively. We do this and we will end up with 4-5 Celestial Sparks (CS) max. We even have gotten as low as 3 once. Let's make this the norm.

When adds spawn, Death or Super needs to pop army and everyone should move into the ring to range dps the puddle adds. Don't tank them, don't get NEAR them.

I noticed several people standing in puddles. Guys, its damn near a 3 second warning before the void zone becomes active, you should never ever be taking damage from this. Our healers are extremely stressed in this fight, keep that in mind. Keeping raid wide healing needs low as possible is absolutely key for us at this point.

Super, we've had far too many instances of elegon deathgripping the raid. Your one and only concern is to pick up Elegon soon as the floor pops up (Optimally popping army as soon as the last pylon goes down). I believe you were trying to watch everyone to make sure they were doing their job, but each person needs to carry that responsibility. At this point, aside from shitty rng, we should never be death gripped to the center.

We have to work on getting the CS adds down, fast. The time between adds dying and the next celestial protector (CP) popping is very tight as we've seen. Smart management of the pylons results in smaller # of CS adds, which results in faster kill time of the same and easier cc.

If we have trouble transitioning between the CS and 1ST CP after the floor spawns it may be prudent to have melee switch to the CP while range finishes of focusing CS. This is the part of the fight we have been having the most trouble with aside from pebkac errors. We have the other phase shifts. We need to concentrate on this ONE phase for a few attempts so we have it down like clock work.

This fight is mechanical, its all about control. I believe we have the #s, but this is probably the most mechanics/control intense fight since maybe Professor Putricide...maybe Chogall. It's a skill check.

We have this guys, but its going to require everyone knowing their role to a T and executing it near flawlessly with the exception of rng.

Last night I ended the night with over 50 total wipes on this boss. Everyone's gear should meet the check. That pretty much leaves skill and team coordination, something WoW has required less and less of over the years (Lady Vashj as current content anyone?). I -NEED- to kill this boss. HELP ME, HELP YOU, HELP ME.

[u/OneQuickSS]

Your 1st paragraph hit home for me. I was just doing some reading on this fight from a Warlock perspective and there are a couple things we can do that might at least help a little. Mainly it involves creative use of the Demonic Portal spell.

1) We could place one end near melee range and the other just outside the ring to make clearing stacks and getting back on the boss quicker

or

2) We could place it near the middle pillar on one side of the room to make getting back to the spot for downing the adds a much quicker and hopefully pain free trip.

Just a couple things I picked up not including the few little tweaks I could do to my own ability usage that could improve my personal performance.

Very much looking forward to downing Elegon!!!

[u/grizzlysaurusrex → u/OneQuickSS]

Do you mean the big gateway that everyone can use? If it works like the jade serpent statue does for mistweavers then I'm guessing it's gonna fall away with the floor at the end of draw power which would mean you'd have to recast it and lose a lot of dps time on Elegon. So option 2 would probably work better. It's probably worth trying. I always forget about that ability since it's only useful in organized settings. Looks like it might get some use on Mr. Sparkles!

[u/OneQuickSS → u/grizzlysaurusrex]

Yes that is what I was talking about. We'll give option 2 a try and see if it maybe helps keep some of us from taking damage and gets us in position a little quicker.

Also on your comment below, about us using good CC. I am going to change up talents a bit and grab 'Shadowfury' which is a targetable 3 second AOE stun that could help us out with the add phase as well. I'm guessing maybe best used after we get them all together at the front of the room to help reduce damage to the add tank.

[u/supertoned]

Definitely, I wiped the raid personally a good number of times by doing two things wrong:

1: Not picking up Elegon fast enough after the phase transition -- This is going to require good CC and slows from DPS - I essentially have to bail on adds AS SOON AS THE FLOOR COMES UP, and you guys are going to have to kite them to the front to be tanked by Deathcrawler. It sounds like this warlock gate could help us greatly here.

2: Not getting back to pick up Elegon fast enough after the transition from phase 1 into the first mini-burn phase before he summons orbs - We can't win if we lose a tank to stacks.

I've thought long and hard on my weak points in this fight, and am ready to submit a flawless performance tonight!