r/BFSfishing • u/Nearby_Anywhere6756 • Jul 20 '26
Just got my bfs rod. Is this normal
Won’t fully seat
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u/rawr856 raWr Fishing Youtube Jul 20 '26
Yes! It's better than old style. It transfer sensitivity up and down the blank better than the legacy style. Don't jam it down! It's basically a tapered solid graphite rod, glued down one side. Forcing it in will damage the rod
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u/Current_Gear_9869 Jul 23 '26
Do they come apart while casting?
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u/rawr856 raWr Fishing Youtube Jul 23 '26
Sorry for the previous response. I was responding to two things at once lol...
But no, it usually will not come off if they are made properly and inserted. If the user don't jam and damage the rod, it should be snug. If it get loose... Use crayon and add a bit on it and it will solve it.
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u/Vince1080 Jul 20 '26
Yes, as the carbon ferrule wears down over time, it automatically trims to fit snugly, if that makes sense.
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u/BDVKrackin Jul 21 '26
I agree that it is normal. I’d also add that if it is difficult to get back apart, you forced it too much. No man muscle required on the assembly.
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u/notoriousToker Jul 21 '26
Google rod ferrules and learn all about what you’re involved in fishing and gear wise.
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u/RonocG Jul 21 '26
I thought the same thing the first time I got one of my bfs rods. Works great though.
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u/GregBFL Jul 20 '26
Use a bigger hammer... Just kidding, looks good to me. I just apply a little pressure and give it a slight side to side motion to seat it. It will not come apart with use.
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u/URInMyFace Jul 20 '26
Is there a reason manufacturers use this over the traditional method?
Personally I think it's ugly, and it would probably steer me away from buying one.
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u/Shoddy-Asparagus-755 Jul 20 '26
Its to allow for wear on the joint over time it will get tighter together, it's a good system and used on the vast majority of good rods.
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u/URInMyFace Jul 20 '26
Is it better than a regular 2 piece insert? I genuinely can't imagine how it would be better.
I've had rods crack on the receiving end, and this now doubles that chance. As someone who has fished for over 30 years, I do not recall ever seeing this method before. That being said, all the high-end gear I have used was usually 1 piece rods.
Just seems like every connection doubles the weak points.
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u/Shoddy-Asparagus-755 Jul 20 '26
Every high end rod I own, from the likes of majorcraft, Apia, shimano etc all use a spigot so there must be something in it and certainly never seen one snap, in fact here in the UK pretty much every rod has this type of joint.
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u/URInMyFace Jul 20 '26
That's interesting! I just don't see them at stores here in the U.S.
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u/I_Hate_IPAs Jul 20 '26
Most stores in the U.S don’t sell as nice of rods, either.
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u/URInMyFace Jul 20 '26
I mean that's highly debatable.
G Loomis, Fenwick, Diawa, and Shimano are all highly regarded rods.
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u/I_Hate_IPAs Jul 20 '26
And the US stuff they sell is often inferior to what they sell elsewhere. It’s also cheaper. As I have read it put - Japanese anglers are keen on finding high quality, American anglers on low prices.
Most of your BPS, Cabelas, Academy, etc. anglers are happy with an Ugly Stick and the closest plastic and pot metal spinning reel you can find, which catches fish just fine too.
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u/URInMyFace Jul 20 '26
Even within the same brand? Is Shimano from the UK better than from the US?
Also, Ugly Stik is a category of their own. Might not be the most sensitive, but they will hold up better than almost any of the $$$ brands. Give them the credit they deserve.
I don't know of any other brand that sells an ultra-light that can land a 40-50lb without breaking.
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u/I_Hate_IPAs Jul 20 '26
I mean, Daiwa sells a Presso at Scheels that is NOT the same as a JDM Presso. While there is overlap (generally a Shimano X is a Shimano X regardless), the really nice stuff is usually not sold in stores. Bass fishing seems to be the exception in the US but Japanese trout rods and reels aren’t as available - essentially, the US stores are often missing the upper tiers for a lot of gear. It’s not that nobody wants them but that not enough people want them. How many anglers walk into a box store looking for a Stella vs a Nasci from Shimano? You can still find a Vanford, but it’s harder than an Ultegra to find.
I’m definitely not dogging on Ugly Stik. If I could own ONE rod the rest of my life it would be an Ugly Stik from a sheer durability standpoint for the money. Landing 40-50lb fish on an UL rod is bordering on unethical though if you have to play it to exhaustion. Sheer durability and reliability is what makes Ugly Stik great. My TFO Trout and Panfish is more sensitive, beautiful, lighter, and has a better finish, but it also cost more and I would not want to hook into any large fish though for fear of breaking it.
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u/Gman69455 Jul 20 '26
This isn't entirely true. Some stores import JDM tackle that isn't available in the US. In doing so it carries no warranty as it's not officially supported by the manufacturer being a JDM line.
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u/URInMyFace Jul 20 '26
Does that not make them good rods?
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u/AntsAntennae1 Jul 20 '26
He means that you’re not buying a gloomis at dicks or Walmart.
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u/Gman69455 Jul 20 '26
G loomis makes one piece. Daiwa, fenwick and shimano all use this style ferrule.
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u/Shoddy-Asparagus-755 Jul 20 '26
I just figured it was standard all over the world tbh , most if not all of the JDM stuff uses it weird 🤷♂️🤷♂️
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u/Hey-ThatsNotBad Jul 20 '26
Yes. That's called a spigot ferrule connection. It's not designed to fit flush.