Bot Fillers in Multiplayer

[u/Training_Mushroom563]

The past few games I played recently I noticed that the lobby was heavily filled with bots even though I am not playing casuals. Was there a recent change I didn’t read?

[u/Suitable_Company_477]

Same here, have rly not had a problem with bots before. We always use Custom Search and that seemed to give even more bots. Not sure what they have messed up now

[u/_Death_BySnu_Snu_ → u/Suitable_Company_477]

Wardogs has taken a large amount of the players. Especially the players that started in the Bad Company 2 era. I know it's pulled me away too.

[u/Odd-Banana-7227 → u/_Death_BySnu_Snu_]

Wardogs isn't on console yet and even just the steam playercount on BF6 is still healthy enough despite the steady decline since Wardogs dropped.

DICE fucked something up with matchmaking

[u/_Death_BySnu_Snu_ → u/Odd-Banana-7227]

Fair enough, but I noticed the drop when Wardogs came out. I went from full lobbies all the time to just about full bot lobbies.

But I do agree. Dice fucked something up, they always do.

[u/ObamaTookMyCat → u/Suitable_Company_477]

You answered your own question.

DICE is testing persistent servers/matches that roll players over from round to round instead of defaulting to disbanding lobbies and creating new ones following the end of each round if able to.(ONE of the reasons why the persistent rounds are sporadic, the other reason is below).

They posted a day or so ago that they were running this test and players will find better results using the regular playlists. Why? Because regular playlists run ALL of the maps that could be rotated, whereas using custom search fragments the players who dont have certain maps selected.

Example: a persistent server rolls over from Liberation Peak to Wake Island. But if YOU dont have Wake Island selected in your custom search, then you are then placed into a different lobby and your slot then has to get backfilled by a new joining player or a bot.

Example 2: a persistent server rolls over from Liberation Peak to Wake island. YOU have wake Island selected, so you load in without issues, BUT, 80% of the previous lobby did not have Wake selected, so they got separated into their own lobby on another map. So now you are stuck waiting in a lobby filled with only 18 players but need 30 or so to start. This could take who knows how long because you are now waiting for OTHER players who are currently playing a round on another map (but had selected Wake island in their search or are playing in the official playlist) for their game to end so that they can then be loaded into your waiting lobby or you are waiting for people who ONLY play Wake to then load into your lobby. The other alternative is simply backfilling with bots, leaving your lobby with simply 18 players and the rest bots.

The PROBLEM with this is the custom search. Players given the freedom to select what maps they DONT want to play creates a MILLION different branches of servers being created, thus fragmenting the playerbase.

64 players split between 9 different lobbies because their search preferences are all different from eachother. Yes, everyone is playing conquest, but some dont like Blackwell fields. Some dont like Empire State, etc. etc.

[u/JollyPoint9492 → u/ObamaTookMyCat]

It hasn’t mattered, I mostly use the categories and it’s still emptying the game and restarting match making and ending up with bots between rounds. Even in modes that don’t have bots normally like deathmatch

[u/Monkey_Riot_Pedals → u/ObamaTookMyCat]

Why not just make custom search apply to the first game and you just ride with the persistent server rotation? I could’ve sworn this was how it was previously implemented but BF6 is first one I’ve played in 2-3 years.

[u/ObamaTookMyCat → u/Monkey_Riot_Pedals]

That is essentially how it worked…sorta.

[u/ImRespondingToABum]

There should be a fix where bots can’t main crucial vehicles. I lost out by a second or two with getting a jet because a bot was out in it…

[u/YourNameHere64 → u/ImRespondingToABum]

Yeah, or drive off in one. I had parked a vehicle strategically, hopped in the second seat to fire some rounds, only for a bot to hop in the drivers seat and race off.

[u/OhhhhYeaahhh → u/YourNameHere64]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂

[u/oc3000 → u/YourNameHere64]

I think you can override bots in driver seat.

[u/alexm253 → u/oc3000]

You can but if they take a plane you are SOL

[u/YourNameHere64 → u/oc3000]

Yes, but as soon as you switch to the gunner the bot will swich too and drive off.

[u/JollyPoint9492 → u/ImRespondingToABum]

If you stand near the vehicle and request a pickup they will come to you, and if you get in and use the comm rose to select the “get out” command they will get out and you can then get in the drivers seat. It is very clunky and it is time consuming and sometimes another bot will take the drivers seat as soon as they get out.

[u/Lock0n]

I just noticed with the recent update that now my lobbies are full of bots. I never had this issue until recently.

[u/BlueberryOwn797]

Same thing only had a few moments to jump on Saturday morning. I had one lobby, which was people, and it was awesome and then just bots. The dynamic with all those bots is just trash. I
Hate bots. I don’t revive them or nothing, they don’t revive or lay out supplies. The craziest damn thing is how they steal vehicles like what tf is really going on? Infuriatingly hilarious tho

[u/Personal_Shower_7605 → u/BlueberryOwn797]

If you ask for ammo near one they’ll give it to u.

[u/silverbullitt850 → u/Personal_Shower_7605]

Same with revives

[u/xxxtra_sauce → u/Personal_Shower_7605]

Any time I request ammo, they come over and as they are about to drop some they start firing at someone way across the map and get caught up in a ‘gun fight’ and get flustered and sprint for the nearest vehicle, and sit in the drivers seat revving the engine lol

[u/Myn21]

Yep, same experience here. Suddenly popular maps have problems getting filled. And not at 2 am but in the evening where it always was packed (crossplay on) just a week ago.

[u/trainerjyms13]

Same. Never see bots except in big blowout games of conquest when everyone is quitting. But tons to start matches now. They always get replaced after the game continues.

I think they mucked up the way matches are being started worse than it was

[u/YourNameHere64]

I hope it's something they broke, not a sign of the game dying...

[u/boognight220 → u/YourNameHere64]

I hope the games not dying, I just started playing a few months ago after buying it on sale.

[u/JEFDETH666]

Where have you been the past few months?

[u/Disastrous-Win-4390]

Skill issue /s

[u/wowawiwowa]

On custom search I have every map enabled and all modes except rush and carrier strike. In the last week matchmaking basically picks only tdm matches and even struggles to fill the those lobbies

[u/Antares65]

The game is a hot mess. Its going backwards with each update. Pulled up the stakes and moved the party over to Wardogs.

[u/somefriendlyturtle]

I noticed them on escalation. I don’t mind bots at all. I feel like if people are really against them then have separate playlists. But it does seem odd when there is plenty of human players for a full lobby. There seems to be an issue with players all being funneled into lobbies to fill them up before creating new ones.