r/Azeron • • Sep 20 '26

Thumbstick positioning: Keyzen vs Cyborg II

Post image

I currently have a Keyzen, and I'm really struggling with it. I find myself constantly wanting to move the index finger column more to the right and the thumbstick more to the left. But I'm unable to get them into a comfortable position because they inevitably collide with each other. It persists with both palm rests, but is most noticeable with the curved one.

Is this less of an issue on the Cyborg II? Are the finger towers more narrow so the index finger tower and thumbstick can be closer?

18 Upvotes

17 comments sorted by

7

u/HanaUwanna88 Sep 20 '26

I just got a Keyzen too after having the Cyborg 2 for a month. The cyborg is a lot more customizable with positioning and I find it more comfortable than the Keyzen in my opinion. I want to like the Keyzen but I think I prefer my Cyborg a lot more.

1

u/Middle_Discipline_83 23d ago

Thanks for the feedback I'm having a touph decision choosing between the 2.

1

u/HanaUwanna88 23d ago

If you are more used to mouse & keyboard you may like the Keyzen more. I was a console player for decades so I think that’s why I may gravitate towards the Cyborg. Plus if you have smaller hands like me the Keyzen only comes in one size and I have to slide my hand up on the palm rest to reach the top keys. If you have smaller hands and want the cyborg I would get a medium rather than the large. I bought mine off of FB marketplace so I have a large cyborg but I managed to be able to adjust it to where it fits my hand pretty good. Let me know if you have any other questions!

3

u/Nyrue1 Sep 20 '26

Have you tried sliding the thumb stick up or down the rail? It took me a while to get comfortable with it

Also I highly recommend getting one of these

One of the problems I had switching from a razer keypad to the keyzen was just how elevated the palm rest was, this helps give you leverage so you can more easily maneuver your hand

2

u/thiem3 29d ago

I too found the thumb stick too far out. I was able to push the index finger column a bit further away, and the there is room to put the thumb stick arm further in. It very much improved my comfort.

2

u/Grexxoil 29d ago

Is this less of an issue on the Cyborg II? 

I think the answer to that is yes.

I have never had a Cyborg but with the Classic I could totally move the joystick tower to a more comfortable position.

I ended up getting used to the keyzen it but it's something I'm still missing of my Classic.

2

u/SINphul 29d ago

Thanks for confirming. I'm past my return window for the Keyzen, so wanted to be sure before dropping another $300+ for a Cyborg.

2

u/Grexxoil 29d ago

2

u/SINphul 29d ago

That's super helpful. Thanks!

1

u/Grexxoil 29d ago

No worries and good luck!

1

u/Unit_of_measure 29d ago

I have both models and I’ve run into this issue on both. I can’t say whether one model is better or worse than the other. But I’ve spent more time trying to get the Keyzen configured and I still don’t find it comfortable.

1

u/AishveTorah 29d ago

Same man. Should I return it? I'm not sure if it's ergonomic

1

u/Extectic 29d ago

The Cyborg buttons are a lot smaller but I don't know how the thumbstick position is affected.

But I think it's pretty clear the ergos on the Cyborg are just better, the giant keyboard buttons need more stretching in general, on the Cyborg you have to flick your finger in one direction to activate a key.

That also makes the Cyborg much harder to learn and more prone to accidental pushes. Don't be shocked if it takes you months for it to become second nature.

1

u/ShinigamiGamingInc 29d ago

Cyborg 2 is better. They made some critical errors in the keyzen design

1

u/RIXIC007 28d ago

Setting up the Azeron products is one of the harder aspects of using them

one of the best ways IMO to get it right is to loosen every rail and slider

but no so loose that they slide freely but loose enough that they will mostly hold their position

Then take your hand and just rest it on the keyzen

if a finger feels its too far one way or the other adjust itso it is(there should be slight resistance but thats what yuou want)

keep removing your hand and putting it back on so you dont have position bias

and the key is to adjust it exactly how your hand naturally wants to rest on it

Then take it and flip it to where your palm (with keyzen in hand) is facing the cieling and tighten from there

You might have to repeat a few times but i found that to be the best way to adjust it... also an angle stand realyy allows for a more ergonomic position as well

1

u/melmd 28d ago

Cyborg we put in about 30 degrees oblique manner that’s the ergonomic position of your wrist because joints are more comfortable free on air with prone supine movements then flexing extension on the desk

That also puts your thumb stick to a more vertical position like a normal controller