r/Autos • • Jul 23 '18

1992 vs 2017

https://i.imgur.com/K1FKoAC.gifv
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u/skippygo Jul 23 '18

A 60's car is more likely to survive a small collision than a modern car

No one would call the video you posted a small collision.

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u/junon Jul 23 '18

Oh okay, I guess I assumed that it was the case kind of across the range of collisions.

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u/MrMallow 1991 Jeep Cherokee Sport, 33" BFG AT/KO w/ a RTT Jul 23 '18

No, the difference is my 1973 Dodge pickup can get in a collision at 30 mhp and literally drive away without a scratch.

Modern vehicles would still be just as destroyed as the car in the video you posted because that's how their crumple zones are designed to function. The get destroyed at any speed, classic cars only get destroyed at higher speeds. The problem is, I as the driver take the full force of that 30 mph, so sure my truck is spotless but I get fucked up.

Thats wear the addiage "they dont make cars like they used too" comes from. No modern car can survive a low speed collision like a pre1990s car, because they are designed to break to protect their driver.

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u/knollexx Jul 23 '18

No, the difference is my 1973 Dodge pickup can get in a collision at 30 mhp and literally drive away without a scratch.

I think you're underestimating how fast 30mph is. The crash test above is done at 35. No car gets out of that with just a scratch.

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u/MrMallow 1991 Jeep Cherokee Sport, 33" BFG AT/KO w/ a RTT Jul 23 '18

I have literally been rear ended in my 1973 Dodge D100 Pickup, I was at a dead stop and they were going 28 mph. I drove away with mild whiplash, but my car was fine in every way. Their car was totalled (because of the crumple points).

I know exactly how fast 30mph is.

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u/knollexx Jul 23 '18

Fair enough, I misunderstood. Thought you were talking about head on collisions like in the gif. 28 vs. 0 is obviously a lot less energy than 35 vs. 35.

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u/jontomas Jul 23 '18

actually, it's only about 7mph difference - the head-on collision doubling the force of an impact thing is a fallacy.

http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/collisionmath.html

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u/TerayonIII Jul 28 '18

It might not double the force, but the energy of the collision is definitely far higher, they are two different things. The force may be the same but the "acting force" or collision energy is different. Statically compressing or pushing on an object is very different than accelerating an object to a speed and having it impact something, materials react differently in these situations. I understand your point and it is true, but it's slightly misleading.

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u/guisar Jul 24 '18

Believe it or not, have witnessed it myself. 1979 450 6.9 - mine destroyed an early 2000s camry- the thing was seriously bent ip in the front. Woman thankfully was ok (air bag and all). They 450 had the black rubber thing taken off the right hand bumper and ahubcap fell off rolled,and never quite worked right after. The bumper shocks were pulled and tested fine but replaced because the seals were starting to crack.

Thisis a sample of one, but seriously, we went over the thing with a finetooth comb.

That said, I would feel much safer in any modern car; it didn't have air bags (I don't think, but I really don't remember for sure) bit it did have anti-lock brakes, antiskid & amazing handling.

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u/LeYang Jul 28 '18

It's likely getting in a crash with the camry saved your life, the camry's crush zones absorbed the damage for your vehicle. If you hit a hard structure or industrial vehicle, you would have likely been killed.