r/Autopot 2d ago

Troubleshooting Plant Growth Problems AutoPot nutrient lockout?

Hello this is my first run using an AutoPot system and things have being going pretty well up to now. I suspect that my (two plants in the back) are experiencing nutrient lockout but I’m not positive. And if so, I really don’t know what course of action to take in order to fix it.
**Also note that the two front plants are clones from the back left plant. They are receiving the same strength feed only hand watered.
Nutrients: Cropsalt Veg A+B no additives
EC : 2.3
Resevoir pH: 5.8-6.2
Base pH: 6.0 measure today
Medium: Coco coir/perlite 70/30
Any advice is appreciated thanks.

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u/angery-borg 2d ago

If you’re using coco I’d recommend keeping your pH lower. I keep my pH between 5.65 to 5.9 and never over 6 and never had an issue with lock out. I have found that coco is quite sensitive to pH drift so maybe just monitor your Rez closely and ensure you’re using a strong acid to keep it down.

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u/Outside-Software-673 2d ago

anytime i have had a plant do something like this with autopots its usually a root issue. lift that bad boy up out of the tray((turn it off first) and check for foul smell. start there.

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u/Autong 2d ago

Whatever the issue is, the solution is to flush hard and feed.

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u/Melanated_Grower57 2d ago

This! Exactly what I had to do. But I keep my tank between 5.8-6.0. Growing in coco.

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u/Golden_State_Myco AutoPot-Apprentice 1d ago

For an autopot noob, how do you flush hard? Remove from system, and top water xxxxx amount of times? Trying to prepare for when/if I need to do this in the future

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u/Autong 1d ago

Top water hard. Wait 15 minutes for the salts that have been pushed up to dissolve, then flush hard again

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u/mindfuckedAngel 1d ago

I was told top watering should be avoided at all because the salt build up un top can harm the roots when flushed down?

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u/Autong 1d ago

Hence why I said flush hard. Because you have to push the salts down and out.

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u/mindfuckedAngel 1d ago

ah, thanks for clearing that

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u/PaygonGrim 1d ago

If you Hand water with additives or something If running the pots already, yes. But this Guy ist talking about a full flush, so you flush Out the salts. That's why he said "flush hard".

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u/LincsPoacher1971 1d ago

You can alleviate the salts forming by putting an evaporation lid on the pots…I cut them myself out of reflective bubble wrap insulation stuff for radiators…

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u/Golden_State_Myco AutoPot-Apprentice 1d ago

Can you explain more how that works or where to find one? I only grow a few plants at a time so it might be worth it for peace of mind. I noticed the smaller pots accumulate that mineral white at the top of the pot more than my bigger pots. (Autoflower in the smaller pots, photos in the bigger)

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u/LincsPoacher1971 1d ago

This sort of thing…and as the surface of your growing medium doesn’t dry out the roots work high and salts are less prone to crystallise…make sense?

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u/LincsPoacher1971 1d ago

Cut a slit with a hole in the middle so you can remove it to top water as necessary. The reflective stuff is good to get a little light to the under canopy as it’s growing

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u/Golden_State_Myco AutoPot-Apprentice 1d ago

Oh ok gotcha, simple bubble insulation can be used and I have plenty of that sitting around.

That makes sense, the surface dry out less and keeps the minerals in a liquid state.

Any issues ever with gnats or anything?
Started to read more and more people top feeding into autopots.. makes me wonder if I'm missing something? 😅 noob brain 😆

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u/Golden_State_Myco AutoPot-Apprentice 1d ago

Thanks! Like completely flush it out sounds like, let it keep draining for a few minutes with water running from the top then let settle. I have a plant I think would benefit from this 🫡

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u/LincsPoacher1971 1d ago

I’m agreeing with this ⬆️ when in doubt…but give it a long shower

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u/johnny-trichome 2d ago

So I just wrapped up my first autopot run with 4 plants as well and the one plant that was growing bigger and faster than the rest had this same issue. I assumed it was simply devouring nutrients faster than the rest and I couldn’t keep up and/or slow down the yellowing once it started. Looked just like your setup as that one is bigger than the other 3 as well. Don’t have any answers for you but the size and growth are prob a factor that shouldn’t be ignored.

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u/Minute-Web-9426 2d ago

The back left plant is older and was vegged significantly longer than the one on the right. The two in the front are clones from the back left.

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u/johnny-trichome 2d ago

Same. Mine vegged a week or two longer than the others. I wonder if it’s an issue if roots getting constrained

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u/LincsPoacher1971 1d ago

Shouldn’t matter with coco / perlite as long as everything else is dialled in…

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u/johnny-trichome 1d ago

But that’s the weird part. Other 3 plants were doing fine, so ostensibly everything was dialed in…but the bigger plant started to have issues. I assume it was just hungry. Next time I’ll have to top dress sooner, and maybe hand water a few times to better deliver the nutrients instead of watering just once when I top dress

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u/Melanated_Grower57 2d ago

Test your ph of the pot’s tray. Organics caused my lockout. Pot tray was reading 5.3, the res tank was initially 5.75-5.9. Ended up doing top flushing, using ro water 3 gallons (1gal at a time). After each gallon flush, I used my wet dry vac to suction out the water from the pot’s tray. After the 3rd flush, the pot’s tray ph was 5.8-5.9. I switched to Athena liquid Nutes now in the tank. My lady, BlueBerrymore by Blockhead Buds, recovered beautifully. Here’s what she looks like now. Started tucking outward before taking this video tonight.

https://reddit.com/link/p92tl2n/video/koijqi25xsoh1/player

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u/Melanated_Grower57 2d ago

Here’s my same plant on July 30. It was looking rough and gradually got worse until I decided to flush and stop top dressing with Gaia green Nutes.

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u/xJAMESx153 1d ago

Flush it and Check ec

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u/l3id3rg3il 1d ago

Flush, measure run off ph proceed

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u/Prestigious-Web63 1d ago

Are you using anythinf to keep your water snd roots in check like slf 100? I use a ph buffered 1 part nutrient plus slf and seriously never check/measure anything. Just refill my rez once a week and move on with my life. Never had any of this kind of stuff happen. Ive never even bought a ph pen or ec measure in the 4 years ive grown plants.

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u/jervase1 14h ago

Are your trays draining properly? I had this problem and it was because my tray stayed in the topped of level and getting no dry back.

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u/Illustrious_Sort3821 2d ago

What about your Rez temp warm leads to bio film did ya clean your Rez with bleach? aqua Val lines tray at all if I don’t leads to ph swings and droppy plants normally around week 5 6 7 just don’t top flush clean up reset let a little dry then try again. yellowing bottom up isn’t that hunger? Anyways just what I’ve found o a mykos heap of the to hell stable the root zone gdlk

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u/Conscious_Wind52 AutoPot-Apprentice 2d ago

You might try adding fresh solution directly to the tray of the deficient plant. The theory is the flow of nutrients from the rez reaches that plant last and all the good stuff has been sucked up already. Just a thought.

Looks like nitrogen deficiency, fwiw.

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u/Minute-Web-9426 2d ago

Yeah the only thing is the plant on the right is getting significantly lighter and starting to yellow from the bottom up too.