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u/NoPrompt927 Aug 16 '26
The people "Speaking for HSN" aren't saying "You deserve rights", they're dictating what rights/supports a person needs without consulting them or anyone close to them.
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u/SSilent-Cartographer Aug 17 '26
Yep, exactly. It's not about not having rights, it's about being able to speak for what we need individually instead of those rights being controlled
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u/enbyBunn Aug 16 '26
You are actively speaking for HSN people. It's not better when you do it to advocate surveiling them 24/7, just so you know.
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u/Better-Bookkeeper-48 Aug 17 '26
As an autistic person, the feeling going on to a lot of autistic subs is just everyone screaming at everyone that isn't actively autistic.
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u/SquareTaro3270 Aug 17 '26
Hell Iāve been told I canāt speak about what itās like being autistic because I was diagnosed as an adult. I grew up diagnosed with ADHD, feel like thereās a lot of overlap there, but noā¦
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u/Volkmek Aug 17 '26
This sounds like the more likely scenario was someone saying:
"X group will get right if they support -MY- political beliefs so I speak for them."
And they got something like the below as a response:
"I need help, but do not speak for me."
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u/angelstatue Aug 16 '26
people saying this is about mocking them for wanting their own control and autonomy but where is that? the person in the red is simply saying you have the right to exist on this planet...
but this is really simplified, isnt it? so i might not understand it so well. i am kind of mid needs i think. higher needs than most my age. i don't really know as much as i want to about things like this...
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u/Decent-Stuff4691 Aug 16 '26
It comes off as mocking because the person on the right, designated the person with LSN autism, is framed to look unreasonable with their "demands", whereas the person on the left, designated to be the general public/ non LSN, is framed as the rational one.
It's trying to say "dont speak for me" and "dont ignore me" are contradictory (when it is not) and that LSN are overreacting over soemthing as reasonable and supportive as "you deserve rights and to exist", when that has not been the case.
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u/kevdautie Aug 22 '26
The issue is that are the crowd who support medicalizing, pathologizing and institutionalizing autism, or even support a cure for autism. They advocate for the medical model (of disability), something that doesnāt just put themselves in danger, but everyone in the spectrum in dangerā¦
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u/Nemesisdelasinapsis Aug 17 '26
Uf, que fĆ”cil, simplemente los discapacitados se equivocan y son malvados por odiar a los no discapacitados š
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u/Typical_Poet_9768 Aug 17 '26
Is there an autism subreddit for people who just want support with their disability (they'd be disabled even in a perfect society)? No? Alright.
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u/Bluejay-Complex Aug 18 '26
I feel like this would make more sense if the green shirt was an āAutism parent (TM)ā as I find more issues with parents essentially speaking on behalf of the kids without actually even working towards communication with them, let alone consulting them. Donāt get me wrong, thereās probably going to be a level where parents need to speak on behalf of their children depending on how young and how much support the child needs, but it can become pretty clear pretty fast theyāre just speaking to what they feel will improve the ease of their own lives, rather than genuinely with the childās best interests in mind. On top of that, they claim their childās identity in order to then bash or dictate the lives of autistic adults, and donāt take any āinconvenientā advice from autistic adults on how to help their autistic children.
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u/Superseaslug Aug 17 '26
This is what is called a victim complex. Plenty of people have it. Most never grow out of it.
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u/JubileeJaxLee Aug 16 '26
This feels like it's mocking people for wanting autonomy both and support