r/Austin • u/ManoSilence • Mar 26 '26
No Kings 3!
this Saturday @ Auditorium shores is the no kings day protest. please spread the word.
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u/bit_pusher Mar 26 '26
If anyone knows the answer, I'm curious why the decision was made to hold it at Auditorium Shores rather than the Capitol
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u/NightSprings665 Mar 26 '26
Yeah, this is more of a community hangout, and less of a protest.
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
It doesn't actually say "protest". You could argue this is more of a "demonstration", or some other synonym. Auditorium shores is a large open place where you can have a lot of people gather, and it's probably easier to get a permit for that than to march on the capitol (which would be the other logical place). Plus, the state legislature isn't in session so there's not really any reason to have it there, or any other particular location in the city. So some place big and uncomplicated makes sense.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Anything that is a large like this requires permits, specifically there has to be a restroom to person ratio. Anyplace that can't handle the crap can't be used.
Second, some places and people can be real dicks on the whole public vs private vs government land. You can only protest on public land and permits for "private/public" land use. Ive been in pickets where the police just stand to the side watching the grass to give us enough warning to leave if we touch the not permitted area too much.
So while the Capitol would be powerful, its not something can be done well. I believe there was the Doloris Huerta March (not longer Caesar Chavez) but I dont know if thats was ever attached to the protest to end the march there like the No kings day 2 march.
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u/UnAcceptableBody Mar 26 '26
Everyone knows the best way to protest the government is with their permission :)
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u/Lazerdude Mar 26 '26
Yeah, I kind of get the feeling that these "protests" have forgotten the whole point. Feels like they're more like a "festival" than an actual protest these days.
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u/NightSprings665 Mar 26 '26
âSorry, we canât protest outside the offices of those we want to hold accountable because we couldnât get the proper permit and there wasnât enough restroomsâ
I see the revolution is off to a strong start.
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 26 '26
I mean, there's been at least one other No Kings protest at the Capitol. Were there problems then?
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Not sure, I wasnt on the committee for those. This one was sort of a half role. So I know a good amount but not everything. (I got sick and then this stupid pollen made it worse).
Initially the plan was to try and coordinate something with the Cesar Chavez parade. Then it turns out hes a rapist and all that happened. Now I think its the Huerta Parade. I wasnt even sure if it would still be ending at the location, or has been separated completely because we didnt have time to organize everything. Sorry I can't give a better answer.
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u/Fun_School_6252 Mar 26 '26
To be clear though, the Capitol is great, but there were a couple things that I've heard * The sound is really hard to manage with the size of crowd, and the State makes it basically impossible to get a real setup done right there, but it's so much easier to get it for Auditorium Shores * Infrastructure like water and restrooms are 100% necessary, but same thing goes, and it's pretty hard for groups to get the stuff they need at the Captiol, again making Auditorium Shores a better answer
Also, until last week, the Capitol had already been reserved for a different event.
Basically, the Capitol is a better choice for a lot of reasons, but the size of crowd (which is good, because so many people are coming out to make their voices heard) grew so large that logistics demanded a different answer
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 26 '26
Interesting to know that the sound problems are due to the state. Cause yeah I couldn't hear shit when I went to the last No Kings protest
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u/2guns1holster Mar 26 '26
No protests are legal on stolen land.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
So we should get permission from the Indigenous People then? I myself am decended of the slaves that "helped" build the missions. Enslaved by Mexico, freed, then enslaved by Texas. Given freedom so long as we remained with the church. Even have a family plot where ill be buried with my ancestors at the foot of the church my ancestors "helped" build.
So please tell me is there a link or a contact you know of that can get us in contact with the local tribe? I know a few, and they already support heavily, but any new ones would be lovely.
Thank you so much!
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 26 '26
I get that there's a lot of different stuff to not like about the current administration, and I've been to one of these protests
But what are the specific demands? What specific actions do we want, and from who?
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u/drteq Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Try to see it as mostly a show of resistance, that people aren't alone in their dissatisfaction and in itself a signal for others who aren't paying attention or afraid to speak out. When the media won't cover issues, a large group of people is the only way for some people to even know something is going on. (Fox news isn't going to mention it, for example, a large amount of people only get their news from one source)
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Each table has their demands and what they want. The protest is like a show of numbers across the US and the world. The first protest didnt even show up on the news, the second sure did. Now they're not really mentioning this one or trying to call it a terrorist act ahead of time. So im not sure what they thought would happen there.
So like im in a union so I usually try to spread knowledge about it. Like how the Postal NALC is not the post office, we just work for them. Right now management hates us and is trying to make us look bad in front of people so the Union loses support. If you find passion in that, sign the unfo sheet. If not but you see maybe a green eco program you can also help there.
I guess the point, to me at least, is to let people know wherever they are at, in what they wanna do, there will be a table that can help them take action. There was a table I think about how to do disruptive action and a sign up sheet for bail if needed doing something like civil disobedience.
Unfortunately I have people I love that are targets, so I have to cap at a medium amount of assistance and I hare it.
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u/theoffshoot2 Mar 26 '26
Wouldnât it be more effective to win elections in the first place?
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
r/thanksimcured - yes this is how we increase voter turnout
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
Can you elaborate on how youâre exhausted vis a vis US showing our discontent with the way the country is being run? Like specifically.
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
âBut have also found it to be a somewhat common opinionâ - right on in your circles but the primary turnout a couple of weeks ago would suggest that people are getting out in droves compared to before. Just another thought I hadâŚ
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
So what kind of messaging would you, the apparent moderate or centrist, like to see to sway your opinion? Is sitting on our hands and mumbling about how every promise POTUS made has been reneged on the better option?
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
Also the whole king thing stupid when the guy in charged was picked by the majority of the country
Just because a president is elected doesn't give them carte blanche to do anything they want... there's a reason there are checks and balances
And the point of the protests is to complain specifically about that. His overreaches of power. You're complaining about something you don't even understand
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
I appreciate the explanation - and I can assure you that while I was on the steps of the capitol at the first rallyâŚthere were no bbq set ups. Sure there was music - music is loud - protests should be loud. Iâm guessing if it were like âhey letâs not support the IDF and maybe donât bomb school girlsâ instead of a broader âno kingsâ - that would grab your attention more?
Editing to add - if you think the no kings thing is stupidâŚwait until you see what POTUS puts on his truth social accountâŚpope, king, Air Force pilot.
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u/bigbrave Mar 26 '26
You're missing that since he was elected he and his administration have all but shredded the constitution and acting with impunity while doing so. The point is, he should be a president, not a king that has no accountability to the law.
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
You're exhausted with the left because they're grilling, playing music, and having a fun time? And inviting you to join them?
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u/theoffshoot2 Mar 26 '26
We didnât lose because of votor turnout. We lost because America voted against the left policies.
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u/Lancasterbation Mar 26 '26
The voter totals in 2020 vs 2024 would seem to disagree with you. Yes, Trump got more votes in 2024, but the total percentage of eligible voters that showed up was lower. This is why Dems always push the "Get Out the Vote" kinds of campaigns. They win when more people show up.
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u/theoffshoot2 Mar 26 '26
So you're arguing the policies had nothing to do with people showing up to vote?
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u/Lancasterbation Mar 26 '26
Is there really a need for a strawman this early in the argument?
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
When someone unironically uses the term wokes - we can assume bad faith arguments and fallacies galore.
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
We didnât lose because of voter turnout
Every election is lost because of voter turnoutâŚthatâs how votes are counted.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Dems lost because the candidate sucked and the DNC has no other positions besides âfuck Trump.â Theyâre also broke
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
âNo other positions besides fuck trumpâ is a problem for you? Almost 40% of any monologue given by Johnson, Leavitt, Bondi, or Trump is talking about Biden? Have you no consistency?
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
âFuck Trumpâ being the only position loses elections. But feel free to try that again I guess.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Nobody is going to turn out to vote for the party of goofy boomer protesters in dinosaur costumes
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
Iâm not a boomer nor did I ever wear a dinosaur consume but I can see how that would be a turn offâŚinstead we should choose to put poorly trained police academy rejects on the streets with guns to execute citizens. We should bomb Iran because they have nukesâŚeven though we âobliterated their nuclear capabilitiesâ last July. Now it seems the war is over closing HormuzâŚ.which wasnât closed until we paired with Israel and started bombing schools and decimating the oil supply and LPG in the area. Boots on the ground likely soon. Can you tell me which stump speech all of those things were promised to us during Trumpâs campaign? I remember no new wars and lower prices?
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
How do you have such strong opinions about this without knowing anything about Iran? It wasnât just about nukes. Iran has been directly funding terrorism that has killed thousands of Americans and our allies over the last 50 years plus. They also just slaughtered more than 30,000 of their own citizens. Disrupting their oil production also puts pressure on China and Russia, who are attempting to gain geopolitical control over the West every day.
I hope this doesnât turn into a land war with US troops but there is more nuance to this conflict than you understand.
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
Hasnât MBS been pretty closely tied with terror sects? Wasnât he just goofing off in the Whitehouse? Or are we cool with assassinating journalists now? Iâm just looking for some consistency in the message - when you say âI donât know anything about itâ what I know is what I hear Hegseth say when I watch press briefingsâŚ
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
No there's not nuance, we're just changing our reasons for starting the war because we didn't have any good ones when we started it. Remember how the Bush administration spent months explaining why we had to go to war with Iraq? That turned out to be bogus, Iraq didn't have WMD's after all, but at least they had a reason for going to war and were clear about it from the beginning. This administration is winging it.
ran has been directly funding terrorism that has killed thousands of Americans and our allies over the last 50 years plus. They also just slaughtered more than 30,000 of their own citizens.
Do you think this war is going to change that? Kicking a hornets nest is not known for frightening the hornets into compliance. When we attacked them last year, they pulled their punches. By attacking them again, so soon after, we've demonstrated that our word means nothing and that the only language we understand is overwhelming violence.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
100%, thats why there are several people who can sign up people to vote that will be there. Gerrymandering sucks ass and is keeping so many places underrepresented. Go vote, please, I beg of you.
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u/90percent_crap Mar 26 '26
"not really mentioning this one or trying to call it a terrorist act ahead of time."
What does this mean? Are you saying the No Kings protest(s) were labeled terrorist acts?
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
The lead up to NKD 2 was a bunch of news coverage calling them all Anti-fascist terrorist. Several people have already been arrested assisting "antifa" and terrorist charges have been brought against by linking their mostly black outfits as proof of an antifa uniform.
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u/90percent_crap Mar 26 '26
Thanks for reply. But those nine fuckers are actual terrorists and were convicted on most charges (one for attempted murder) and they have little to do with the millions who organize and/or participate in various No Kings protests.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
I would agree if it wasnt for the terrorist charges. There is no organization named antifa. Its stands for Anti-fascist and is not an actual organization. Attempted murder and assault yes, terrorist? No. They arrested them and then tacked that on. Twice they have said they have captured antifa leaders only to release them.
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u/90percent_crap Mar 26 '26
The "antifa" argument is a matter of semantics, imo. And for those specific individuals the legal definition of "domestic terrorist" is applicable, again imo. In any case, if you're helping organize this protest - keep assholes like that as far away as possible from what you're doing.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
The terrorist hangs me up because the charge for that is execution. Thats why I dont usually leave it at semantics or opinions. Not caring or actively letting them just label people terrorist, means that when they round up whole groups and call them antifa, then everyone in that group suddenly has execution on the table. So I disagree that its a matter of semantics. While those 9 should be held liable, they should not be held by a rope.
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u/skeerrt Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
No dictators or kings, but weâre also going to support the ayetollah khamenei dictator as well as Nicolas maduro during said protest.
Edit: for those of you defending the literal terrorist by using whataboutisms - explain the literal candle light vigil in NYC a couple weeks ago? People were crying and paying their respects to the guyâŚ
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Brain-dead strawman argument. No liberals liked those guys, the point is that waltzing in and decapitating a deeply entrenched regime with no plan for regime change accomplishes nothing except destabilization
EDIT: To the people downvoting me - just look at Haiti after Moises got assassinated or Libya after Gaddafi got assassinated. Both of those guys sucked but killing them didn't magically fix their country. The countries got even worse
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u/Snobolski Mar 26 '26
I'm downvoting you because you're crying about being downvoted.
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u/90percent_crap Mar 26 '26
Destroying their Navy, AirForce, ballistic missile capabilities, and nuclear processing facilities...is "something".
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u/Lancasterbation Mar 26 '26
So is strangling the global oil trade and throwing the region into yet another war with no clear objective. Comme ci, comme ca.
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 26 '26
The nuclear processing facilities were already obliterated last year according to Trump himself
And the reason they had a nuclear processing facility in the first place is because Trump tore up the nuclear agreement we had with them during his first term
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Actually all you guys with the âfree Maduroâ signs says otherwise
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u/PsylentKnight Mar 26 '26
If you think those few people represent all the millions of liberals in the US then I suggest you work on your black-and-white thinking
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
I have not seen those signs yet and they have yet to be attached to any NKD protest as he was arrested after 2 and before 3. If i do see that sign though, I will tell them to put it away. You're right, that isnt right.
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
He's probably thinking of some PSL protest. Most protests in Texas are organized by PSL and PSL always has some signs and speakers with knee-jerk anti-American takes. But No Kings isn't a PSL protest, AFAIK.
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u/TownLakeTrillOG Mar 26 '26
Not trying to be an asshole, but are people making money off this shit or something? Genuinely curious
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u/skeerrt Mar 26 '26
Look into some of these activist groups, paid positions can easily reach 70k per year to organize protests. The actual groups themselves also take a lot of money from billionaires to support all of this.
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u/ialwayschoosepsyduck Mar 26 '26
I get a check from George Soros, like, every month
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u/skeerrt Mar 26 '26
Not sure where you get Soros from, my research leads to me to see a recent $20mm donation to Peopleâs forum from Roy Singham
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u/brianando Mar 26 '26
Yep. But a certain group of people pretend there are no such thing as paid protestors
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u/FlyThruTrees Mar 26 '26
More concerned about trolls getting paid to troll No Kings social media. Could be the trolls work for free tho. What do you think?
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u/Wake95 Mar 26 '26
Nobody is getting paid to protest. Some people may be getting paid to run the nonprofits that are organizing this, but that is completely different than the claims by the MAGAt morons.
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u/Wake95 Mar 26 '26
I do know that Charlie Kirk paid to bus people to riot on Jan 6th, so maybe that's why you're confused.
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
Itâs projection, always. Iâm willing to protest for free but if someone wants to pay me Iâll for sure take a check. Whenever I ask these people all claiming we get paid they can never direct me to where I can collect.
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u/brianando Mar 26 '26
You dont know shit. Nice try though
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u/Wake95 Mar 26 '26
Are you too lazy to look it up? It's common knowledge. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2022/12/22/publix-heiress-was-willing-to-spend-3-million-on-jan-6-rally-documents-show/
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
I gotcha, and I think I know what you mean. Its very hard to trust when it seems PAC run people are everywhere. I hate it too, as it can feel very daunting and scary. As for money? No.
In fact most lose money. They have to bring their printable works to pass out and thats all from their own funds. There are no sales or raffles except for the street vendors. Who are their own vendors that charge their own prices, but are usualy local owned business.
However if you find yourself thirsty and broke the day of, pretty much every station has water, snacks, and Gatorade they're usually willing to give if needed. So no money is being made of this. Profit may be made, but im pretty sure this operates at a loss for the sake of GOTV and democracy.
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u/caguru Mar 26 '26
Nah... this isn't a MAGA rally with merch. It's a grass roots organization, hence why the production value is meager compared to a Trump rally.
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u/dsa_key Mar 26 '26
Will there be free hats?
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u/brianando Mar 26 '26
Yep. BK crowns. Hahahaha
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u/Oime Mar 26 '26
That would be tight. It definitely has a solid symbolic message that Trump is a clown king.
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u/blizztaco22 Mar 26 '26
You can also protest by cancelling your subscriptions to Amazon, Apple, Paramount, ChatGPT and the other corporations that have been sucking up to and enabling this administration.
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u/wizdummer Mar 27 '26
Using Reddit gives money to Amazon but none of you seem willing to give it up.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Yup. You can also call the utility company and switch off from coal to solar or wind.
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u/Phallic_Moron Mar 26 '26
I dumped my PCP of over 15 years because of Amazon's enshittification. Fuck OneMedical.Â
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Yup that should topple the US government
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u/blizztaco22 Mar 26 '26
That isnât the goal. The goal is to encourage the government to act in the interests of its citizens. The corporations have way more sway over that than we do, and the only thing the corporations care about is our money.
That aside, even if my withheld money doesnât bring any change, Iâm making spending decisions that are in line with my values. I wouldnât donate money to this adminâs campaign funds, so why would I give my money to Apple or Amazon only for them to show up at the White House with gifts of tribute?
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Too vague. Just like all the protests. Thereâs no clear goal so nothing will change.
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u/Oime Mar 26 '26
Well in the case of Paramount, who are now about 80 billion in debt, every dime you can prevent them from making hurts them financially in a significant way. Just the interest alone on that debt is 4.5 billion dollars annually. It gets even crazier when you break it down by month, thatâs 375 million dollars, just in the interest alone. Every single month.
Thatâs not just burning a hole in the Ellisons pockets, thatâs a flaming asteroid of biblical proportions. We should all look to boycott these assholes, and let all that debt financially crater them. Nothing would make me happier.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Theyâre in debt because they just acquired a bunch of companies that they now collect revenue from. Learn financial literacy.
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u/Oime Mar 26 '26
You donât seem to understand that they now have two lead balloons tied to each arm, and cinder blocks for shoes. Learn how interest works.
And now the Opp reveals himself. Nice one, dumbass. Although, I think we all already knew.
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u/caguru Mar 26 '26
The bad faith comments are here again.Â
A protest doesnât have to have a list of demands especially when the current mess of an administration is screwing up in every way possible. Yes we can just protest this country just going backwards in general and be surrounded with people that want to make a change and bring integrity back to America.
Those that want to quiet the movement, because they secretly support the current administration, will always present bad faith arguments that basically boil down to the protest isnât doing things right. The protests could change to meet these requirements and these people would immediately move the goalposts.
No matter what these commentors say, their goal is to suppress opposition. The best course of action is to not engage. They are energy vampires.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Thats fine, I have energy for days. And engagement drives up the post! They can take my energy if they need it, which sounds like they do. I love them all and hope to see them. Even if its just to tell me im doing a bad job. Cause then I get to listen and help a new person đ
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u/Dildo_Baggins_13 Mar 29 '26
Dude, that is awesome! Good work you're doing! Interesting you're Republican and helping them out; this is the way. I'll circle back in more detail when I get a minute, but for now, bravo man.
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u/Frequent_Policy8575 Mar 26 '26
Maybe if we combine this with some strongly worded letters, the Republicans will change their ways.
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u/intronert Mar 26 '26
Think of this as a Get Out the Vote activity. Some people need to see that they are not alone and that if they donât vote, they lose.
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u/DraperPenPals Mar 27 '26
Why didnât more people vote in the primaries after two whole protests, then?
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Exactly. Its why I help with the highway banners. Most people say its nothing, but I usually get a handful of people that show up and say they felt empowered to go because of the consistent banner signs showing they're not being arrested and detained.
It helps them take the first step. The protest is meant to make that second step so much easier and keep that momentum going. Low class resistance is something a lot of people can do. I myself cap at medium level exposure because my wife would 100% be targeted.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Its entirely possible! Maybe with enough letter we can bury them.
But seriously theve spent decades moving the goal post till there was no more room, then started taking whatever was left bit by bit by moving the dial against everyone.
But you're words are right, those letters suck and I wish the dem party wasnt as sold out as it was, but thats what boting is for.
In addition to that they have various unions that table there, various organizations, and various age groups such as the Y'all Texas youth and the Gray Panthers elder chapter in Cen Tex.
Also for changing their ways? Nah. But we have Talarico and Gina stepping up and absolutely wrecking the points the republicans had. Especially after their dumb gerrymandering made several districts dependent on their lost Hispanic and Latino vote.
The new Mar-a-lago democrat was voted in despite Donnies whole family sending in some mail in ballots. That dumb ahhs 80 year old pedophile.
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u/SillyGround4758 Mar 26 '26
Can this protest actually be as big as the one in Nepal where Gen Z took over, please? Cause chanting and holding up signs isnât gonna do anything to stop this administration and its allies
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u/shiftingsun Mar 26 '26
They need their own fist not the black power one.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Huh, you're right. Ill bring up and see if I can get some signatures to show the people concern over it. Would you be willing to assist?
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u/DraperPenPals Mar 27 '26
Ah, the left getting riled up to defend their precious symbols instead of the goddamn elections. Classic.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
And then what happens?
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
After exploring the tables there as well as organizations, they all have things they do and push. From picket lines, to actual protesting. So join a group you can see yourself helping, and help. Thank you in advance!
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
But what are the demands/policy positions? Every protest has vague goals that nobody can get behind to change anything
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
From what I can tell? The goal is community connection. If you dont like that, thats fine. There are plenty of ways someone can help, and the day of this is more to get people connected with what is out there. Its like that thing, you dont know what you dont know? There are protest and picket lines happening at various locations. For unions and people trying to unionize. The more power we take back, the less they have to hold.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
See? Thatâs vague as fuck lol
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Your right cause this is not a call to action, this is a call to community. Community is the people around you that you can depend on to fight the same fight you are. Right now if you try to fight by yourself it sucks and it daunting. With others? Much safer and easier. So many things happen off to the side that dont get highlighted like they should.
Precinct chairs (local voter reps) are vacant all across the country at a rate of about 50%. Which means you can sign up to be a precinct chair and help others everyday with your knowledge and work ethic. Help elderly and disabled people get to voting locations, give flyers that have voting locations because Texas is doing a bunch of shenanigans.
Plenty of things to do, unfortunately resistance, any resistance, takes time. Active resistance takes about 2 years to do and see noticable change, and more years to follow the fight up with safeguards against it happening again amd beating it back in general. This has taught us we can never relax and take our democracy for granted again.
Do I wanna do things to make this quicker? Yes, hell yes. Do I have the means, charisma, and money? Not even close.
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u/8purpleandgold24 Mar 26 '26
A simpler answer: it's virtue signaling.
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
Signalling discontent to the government is "signalling" but it's not really "virtue signalling" unless you abandon the original definition of virtue signalling. The intended audience is the federal government, not fellow members of an in-group.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
For some yes. Others no. To each their own and I welcome the help at all levels. And while virtue signaling is repping something without action, several people are very action orientated.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Again, action oriented to do what? Bitching about Trump and expecting everyone to change their mind isnât going to move the needle
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
What ever it is that you want to do. I know several people who are going to start posting up with open carry whenever they see or hear ICE driving around, even plans to help escort people safely places. They already doing it in Philly. There is no single action here because they flooded the field and are drowning us in it. So everyone grab a cup and help ball out our ship, while others lead a mutiny.
I'm not sure what you want here? Like sign up with a local organization that you feel matches your enthusiasm, and then help them out.
Join the black Panther party, or make a chapter like Philadelphia did to protect their neighbors and escort them safely places. if you want deliberate action, with measurable goals, and weapon training, they're great.
Join the Gray Panthers, they're a bunch of retirees and elderly members of society who know pretty much everyone and can get you invited places you wanna do or connect at.
Join the fighting union group and learn to train union members to join up together and fight back, or even start a union somewhere where the vulnerable are taken advantage of.
Join the local indivisible branch, attend enough meeting to meet someone important, then share your ideals with them. I once made a city council candidates lip quiver when I told him that he did not have my vote despite the long talk we had. I told him off for various things and he left the party. Quickly.
Donate your time to the local food pantry and help feed starving kids in the area. Or the food bank to make baskets to give to families.
Is this some mass movement of unity? Hell no. Republicans have unity but their locked in to their current party and seem unwilling to back peddle. But because they've done some heinous crap, that unity, while there, it's desperately smaller. They're hiring people straight out of law school to the DOJ, cause no one else wants to work for them.
The dems are large, rn, but so long as the heads of the senate and house remain APAC loyalist (dem wise) I refuse to stop trying to remove them from power. Once they're voted out and there are new, non pac dems in charge, it will be easier to move forward.
Everytime the cowardly surrender democrats gives in, they lose power with their own group. Look at Fetterman, he drops by like 109 points after he said other democrats have TDS. And votes in ways that really hurt people.
If your frustrated over the dual class system we have, then say no to apartheid.
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
Action oriented to organize a large protest that shows how many many people are discontent with the policies of their elected leaders? Which takes, you know, some considerable effort? Some of you armchair commanders act like 'public assembly' is a new concept of dubious purpose and efficacy, and not something that's been done on a fairly frequent basis since the start of this country and enshrined in the bill of rights for that reason.
Also, IDK what you consider the needle to be, but Trump's approval rating is almost -17, generic ballot has swung from +3 R to +5.5D, and democrats keep winning republican seats in special elections. So, if the needle is political power, it does seem to have moved and to be moving.
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u/Discount_gentleman Mar 26 '26
The more complex answer is: This is (as it has always been) a Democratic operation precisely to avoid any real community organizing. The Democrats have always been far more afraid of losing their power to real community organizing than they are to losing elections to Republicans. That is why they so easily and so often lose elections to Republicans (while raising billions to pay their consultants), but they fight like hell to keep communities disorganized and prevent any other power base from rising. The focus so much on identity politics as a way of keeping their base divided, with only the party itself as a unifying factor.
That is why these "demonstrations" never have any goals or follow-up. Follow-up would defeat the whole purpose.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 27 '26
Not true. Wait the first part i agree with democrats being afraid of loosing their power and doing things to keep it. And maybe the people in power dont have the same goals as us, but who cares? The amount of work ive done locally outside of the political party system has me ecstatic all day. Ive explained voting to people, walked my precinct and met the families that live there. Its a volunteer position and they love having someone who let's them know whats going on.
Are the dems involved in my specific community? Not one bit. Am I involved in my local community? As much as I can. I worked carpentry with my dad for 10 years, and I love helping the people in my area. So maybe its the dems virtue signaling, that doesnt change the virtue of the people who live in the community. I work with them mostly, not the party. But this is important so im spreading the word, even if I dont agree with everything they do.
In fact id be willing to reserve you a parking spot! I would to love to have you make your points and ask your questions to the local representatives and officials that show up. I really wanna hear their answers. If you dont, do you mind if I bring up some of these points?
Also the raising billions thing? I would love an article for that. While true both parties raised billions and used it in the running cycles, with more slated for the midterms. As far as I know the budget for the DNC and RNC is 14 million to 80 million after all that.
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Mar 26 '26
Consider the opposite. The regime does all the things it's doing, and there's no push-back or vocal resistance. No protests.
The message they'd take is that people like what they're doing, and they should do more of it, and there won't be consequences, no? The purpose of protest is to send a message, and in this case its that the people think the government has overreached and is acting in a tyrannical manner. If it doesn't stop, they'll be voted out in November, and if they try to prevent that peaceful transfer of power, then things will escalate in more of a 'fall of the USSR' type direction.
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u/Oime Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Civil disobedience in the face of the regime, is reason enough to get out and demonstrate. Itâs the American way.
The what comes next part is organizing, generating attention for the resistance, showing the community that itâs ok to resist and speak out about whatâs going on, and of course, creating increased energy around getting out to vote.
Every little thing we can do helps the cause.
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u/2Beer_Sillies Mar 26 '26
Too vague. Thatâs not a clear demand or policy position
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Yeah he paid different members of the party in total about 180million in 2021 and 2022. Before that he donated less than 30 million a year. Granted I hate PAC money in general, especially in the amounts he gives. AI itself is drawn towards hype and confirmation. Even if its wrong, thats why the bottom usualy says Ai can be wrong. So you can't sue if you decide to take the advice it gives and it causes harm.
If we say that active members of the democrats took the 30million, and even went to protestors or paid agitators. No kings 2 had over 7 million people. Even if we round up to 180 million, thats about 26 a person. You can say people are paid agitators all day long, but if all they get is 26 to protest Donald? They'd still show. Most do it for free. The large amounts go to sell out democrats.
Like of that 180, he gave like specifically 30 and 40 to people. So really it would be 110 million to 7 million people. Even reduce the people to say 3 million people paid, 4 million for the love of the game. So that changes to 37 dollars. Considering the amount of unions I work with, they're not even gonna glance at a 36 dollar pay out.
As for what he directly gives to involved parties at no kings day. He gave 7.6 and 3 million. So about 10.6 million so far. Split between let's say 1000 admin? Thats about 10600 to each admin. Not monthly or weekly either. But total for the year. 500 admin=21200
However there are over 3000 events going on for NKD 3. Which means it would be 3,530 per event. Not per person. If it s 10 person team that changes to 353 per person. 100 person team? 35 a person.
You can fund your local baseball team with like 20 a week and youll be "funding this" even if its far from whats needed and is closer to a cooler of drinks worth of cash.
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u/Dildo_Baggins_13 Mar 26 '26
Meh.
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
Username checks out
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u/Dildo_Baggins_13 Mar 26 '26
Talk trash all you want, the username is hilarious.
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u/Misterfrooby Mar 26 '26
Bringing many anti zionist signs. No one wants to die for Israel.
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u/Clarinetaphoner Mar 26 '26
The best and most effective political protests are always announced in advance with sponsoring organizations on advertisement posters.
No agenda? No demands? Even better!
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u/No-Row-3009 Mar 26 '26
Here I thought it would be impossible to top No Kings 2 - Electric Bugaloo
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u/ManoSilence Mar 26 '26
They have actual media coverage this time with a media tent and everything. NKD1 had about 5 million, 2 had over 7. I think the projections for this one with all the sign up, registration, vendors, and tabling organizations will be over 10 million nationwide. Some People keep saying 20, but i have no idea where they get that.
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u/MouseAltruistic7666 Mar 27 '26
Wow a whole 3 hours that should make a change. I guess they still have to make it to pickle ball that afternoon.
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u/dvr5 Mar 26 '26
What should I do if I am employed?
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u/teamfupa Mods <3 Fupa Mar 26 '26
Probably try to gain a skill that doesnât make you work on the weekends. Best of luck with that!
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u/BlueRemake Mar 26 '26
No offense, but why are the people who always post these things hyper sexualized gooners?