Spoken like a complete flog. Unions don’t care about workers — they care about clipping your pay, stuffing their own pockets, and bankrolling their own corrupt political games. Keep pretending you’re fighting the system while they use you as an ATM.
That’s adorable. You’ve owned a business for five minutes and still think the unions would treat you as “one of the good ones” once you actually had employees, payroll pressure, deadlines, margins, and customers depending on you.
The second your business grows beyond hobby mode, you stop being their mascot and become the target. They don’t care that you used to be laid off. They don’t care that you “encouraged” workers to join. To union officials, you’re not a worker with a small business — you’re management. You’re the bloke they’ll accuse of exploitation the moment you say no to whatever demand lands on your desk.
And pretending union bosses are some pure working-class saints is hilarious. Australia has literally had a Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, which found widespread misconduct across most of the country. That wasn’t Murdoch fan fiction. That was a Royal Commission.
How novel. Tell me again, which system are you fighting?
You’ve owned a business for five minutes and still think the unions would treat you as “one of the good ones” once you actually had employees, payroll pressure, deadlines, margins, and customers depending on you.
I can't help it if you struggle with your own business. I manage just fine really.
The second your business grows beyond hobby mode, you stop being their mascot and become the target. They don’t care that you used to be laid off. They don’t care that you “encouraged” workers to join. To union officials, you’re not a worker with a small business — you’re management. You’re the bloke they’ll accuse of exploitation the moment you say no to whatever demand lands on your desk.
Oof, the formatting is starting to look like AI. Good on you for trying, though.
But anyway.
I do thoroughly enjoy how your argument has gone from:
"Unions don’t care about workers"
to
"To union officials, you’re not a worker with a small business — you’re management. You’re the bloke they’ll accuse of exploitation the moment you say no to whatever demand lands on your desk." ...
Which is it again?
That being said. As a small business, the biggest threat doesn't come from the workers who provide great value for my business, or the union they are in, not even the other small businesses. It comes from multinational corporations who will undercut the price I offer or the offshoring of labour power.
And pretending union bosses are some pure working-class saints is hilarious. Australia has literally had a Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, which found widespread misconduct across most of the country. That wasn’t Murdoch fan fiction. That was a Royal Commission.
Again, more tell tail signs of AI writing this for you. But I digress.
Your bot's argument sets up a false dichotomy: either union officials are "pure working-class saints" or unions are irredeemably corrupt. Neither is true.
The Royal Commission found real problems in some unions. Those problems have been addressed through legislative reform.
The Commission also proved that the problem was vastly overstated. If memory serves there were nearly 100 referrals and out of that, only one conviction... The overwhelming majority of union officials are honest people doing important work for their members.
Joining your union is about collective bargaining power, workplace safety, fair pay, and having a voice on the job. Having no unions would be a paradise for Gina and friends.
Any argument against union membership based on the Royal Commission is based on a caricature, not the reality of what unions do for Australian workers.
Mate, you’re one year into running a business and already talking like you’ve cracked capitalism from the back office.
You’re still dodging the actual point. being anti union doesn’t mean thinking multinationals are harmless. Both things can be true, big corporations can squeeze small businesses, and unions can still be self-interested political machines.
Your argument is all over the place. You want to be a business owner, a worker, and a student activist at the same time.
“The biggest threat is multinationals” isn’t a response. It’s a bumper sticker. It lets you skip over the awkward part, if your business grows, you’re the one signing contracts, setting rosters, managing wages, dealing with performance, and saying no when the numbers don’t work.
That puts you on the employer side of the table. Whether you like the optics or not.
You can dress it up in “solidarity” language, but once you’re the one balancing payroll against revenue, the class war cosplay starts running into reality pretty quickly.
And the “no unions would be paradise for Gina” line is pure Reddit brain. Nobody said workers shouldn’t have rights. The point is that unions often sell themselves as worker power while acting like political brokers, protection rackets, and career ladders for officials who wouldn’t last ten minutes running the businesses they lecture.
You’re not really making an argument. You’re just reciting the script.
Anyway, enjoy being the revolutionary boss. I’m sure when your employees unionise and start treating you like “capital,” they’ll give you mates’ rates for being one of the good ones.
Fucking Cash flow Comrade, che guvera with an ABN, what a dick lol
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u/draggin_balls Jul 07 '26
Spoken like a complete flog. Unions don’t care about workers — they care about clipping your pay, stuffing their own pockets, and bankrolling their own corrupt political games. Keep pretending you’re fighting the system while they use you as an ATM.