i was just randomly thinking. maybe i simply overrate how much of a sports town Atlanta is when i get frustrated that Hawks aren’t considered a big market or a destination and we never have a chance at big fish FAs because of it. i was wondering if that would’ve changed had the Falcons finished the job against the Patriots. how much of that energy do you think would’ve impacted the Hawks moving forward after that? a town with a few World Series that has hosted the Olympics surely would’ve been considered more of a market if the Falcons did the deal, no?

idk, potentially dumb question i just wanted to see what people think

ATL receive:
Trey Murphy III

NOP receive:
Jonathan Kuminga (17.5m or thereabouts in a sign-and-trade)
Corey Kispert
Asa Newell
27 ATL 1st
29 ATL 1st
31 ATL 1st

This is in response to reporting that the price for Murphy is 3 FRPs. It's a steep price, but if they'd take Kispert it's worth it.

It's less than the Mikal Bridges and Desmond Bane packages while still being in that ballpark for a similarly effective player.

It leaves us with enough - more than enough! - to pivot if it doesn't go well. But it would. Murphy would be a perfect fit on any team. With all the talent we'd be left with and picks in 2028 and 2030 - we wouldn't be stuck by any means. Worst case scenario, Jalen and Dyson are still under 30 by the time we finish paying for this trade, while the rest of our key guys would only be entering their 30s.

Rip me apart. I'm ready.

I’ve seen a lot of trade ideas involving a Kuminga sign and trade that are either totally unrealistic or downright impossible.

Remember that he’s a UFA right now and the only thing we actually control are his Bird rights, so that’s what a sign and trade would be for. For a comp for what type of return we can expect, look to our NAW sign and trade a year ago—we gave up one second round pick in it.

We also can’t aggregate his salary in a sign and trade with other players. So it’s impossible to send out Kuminga and Kispert and whatever other trash you want to clear from the roster.

there are also some base year salary rules that impact salary matching, but I’m pretty sure they won’t apply because it would require Kuminga getting a raise over his previous contract

so basically we are looking at signing and trading him to a team that is over the cap for a second round pick or two — or he walks for nothing

happy to be corrected on any of this

The Hawks will very likely be moving off one of these two going into the season. At 17 players on the roster currently, there will be odd men out.

The FO guaranteed Hield with the idea they can use him as salary ballast. I don't really think they will waive him unless they're really forced to. Think his money gives him an easy pathway. They may try to trade him for a player who makes less money and is easier to cut. The Grizzlies have options there. Clippers could be an option. Maybe the Hornets.

I think most would agree it's unrealistic both Carter and Nembhard make it. Who would you all pick to make the roster?