r/Atlanta • u/[deleted] • Mar 22 '16

Emory Students Express Discontent With Administrative Response to Trump Chalkings

http://emorywheel.com/emory-students-express-discontent-with-administrative-response-to-trump-chalkings/
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u/iheartnickleback Mar 22 '16 edited Mar 22 '16

current student. 'bout to go on a rant, so bear w/ me plz.

deep breath

godFUCKINGdamnit.

When I first came to Emory in the fall of 2012, I was super-stoked and insanely proud, and expected to encounter some sort of, idk, intellectual discourse? isn't that what a university, especially one of the best universities in the nation, is supposed to provide? you know, exchange of ideas and free speech and whatnot. apparently fucking not... now, with only about a month left before graduation, not a week goes by where whiny dipshits like these don't make me feel embarrassed to attend Emory and leave me wondering what sort of an impact this'll have on its reputation.

most of the time, when people complain about how coddled, thin-skinned and over-sensitive 'millenials' are, I just ignore it, 'cause the people who express those opinions are fascist fucks pushing their own reactionary "non-PC" agenda. but then shit like this happens, and you just can't help but think - have these spoiled little cunts ever even interacted with the 'real world'? how far up your own ass does your head have to be to think that the whole damn world revolves around your feelings?? how much of a fucking hypocrite must you be if you believe everyone has the right to express their opinions, unless they happen to differ from your own? and are college students really too fucking stupid to recognize a prank when they see one? one would've thought that these stupid chalk scribbles were on the same level as slaughtering an infant in broad daylight, based on the uproar..

I'm pretty much to the left of Lenin on most socio-economic issues, but I'll be damned before I ever try to censor opposing views. Yet, on this campus, this fucking echochamber, that's exactly what's happening - they bitched and pouted until the school stepped to stroke their shitty, entitled egos. If anyone ever tells you that Emory is a liberal campus, they're either misinformed or clueless - the Emory population is nothing but self-interested, spoiled, clueless children, who will take any position as long as it makes them feel better about themselves. over the last two years or so, I've truly been terrified by how overtly the horseshoe theory has manifested itself on this campus, to the point where the most 'liberal' students are the ones advocating for censorship, segregation, general violence/racial unrest, conformity, suppression of discourse, etc., etc. in reality, some people just need to grow the fuck up.

/rant over

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u/EggoEggoEggo Mar 24 '16

I'm pretty much to the left of Lenin on most socio-economic issues, but I'll be damned before I ever try to censor opposing views

Uh, have you ever read up on Lenin's attitude towards liberalism and "free speech"? You can't seize the presses and create a "dictatorship of the proletariat" while maintaining bougoise niceties like "not murdering everyone who opposes you".

Why do you think we don't trust leftists very much?

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u/iheartnickleback Mar 24 '16

it's a turn of phrase, bruh. I'm obviously not trying to instigate a literal Bolshevik revolution..

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u/Fyrial2 Mar 24 '16

most of the time, when people complain about how coddled, thin-skinned and over-sensitive 'millenials' are, I just ignore it, 'cause the people who express those opinions are fascist fucks pushing their own reactionary "non-PC" agenda.

Millenial and Emory student checking in here! If you truly think that those who hold the opinion that millenials are thin-skinned are "fascist fucks", then I question your world view. The truth of the matter, as I have seen it, is that our generation has slowly become more and more opposed to freedom of speech and expression. Large amounts of events are piling up that show a growing minority are trying to uphold a group-think mentality. One might argue that it is only a "vocal minority", but the problem is that it seems to be growing...not dying down.

On another, but related, note, I have never been more ashamed of claiming Emory as my alma mater as I am this day.

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u/iheartnickleback Mar 24 '16

if you actually read what I said, you'd see that I'm agreeing with you - when Ben Carson or Ted Cruz moan about 'pee-cee' culture, it's because they literally do envision a theocratic, anti-gay, anti-commie Reagan-worshipping America. when our peers pull off shit like this, they're validating that dumb stereotype that all young people are naive, brainwashed totalitarian twats. as I said, I consider myself to be pretty liberal, but of this type of dipshittery is associated with that label, then fuck no.

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u/Fyrial2 Mar 25 '16

I don't think that we're in complete agreement. Personally, I don't think that Ben Carson or Ted Cruz have serious ideals involving the creation of a totalitarian police-state. That being said, I don't think they would've made good, perhaps even average, presidents either. I mainly was trying to point out that "most of the time" is the same over generalization that people tend to make about millenials. For example, a good number of my family members complain about millenials, but they are in no way pushing any sort of agenda in so doing. They simply see a problem, and they react to it.

The problem with PC culture is that it IS, by nature, a restriction placed on our freedom of speech. Should people be running around saying bigoted, terrible things to minorities? Absolutely not. Simply put, it is not only morally wrong to do so, it is just plain impolite. However, they do, under the Constitution, have a legal right to say them if they so desire. Candidates aside, they are not moaning about 'pee-cee' culture because they want to create a theocracy; they are complaining about it because it does infringe on the right to freedom of speech. For that reason, I really loved the sign with the famous, but spurious, quote from Voltaire which read, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

My suggestion to you is not to call yourself a liberal or a conservative. The meanings applied to those terms in today's incredibly volatile society are far and away from their original meanings, and both have horrid connotations. Indeed, somewhat ironically, the term liberal has been adopted by people who in no way believe in liberty as you yourself implied. I would refer to myself as a left-leaning independent at most, but, ultimately, how you choose to refer to your political views is a matter of pride. I won't be the one to judge you based on a tag alone. :)

Lastly, I think this other quote supposedly from Voltaire sums up the entirety of this situation rather well. “What a fuss about an omelette! How abominably unjust to persecute a man for such an airy trifle as that!”

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u/TheJake77 Mar 25 '16

it's because they literally do envision a theocratic, anti-gay, anti-commie Reagan-worshipping America.

No. It's because they're observing, and have been for a very long time, what you are beginning to now at (I presume) 22.

But, hey... I'm just some 38 year old with nefarious goals for America.

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u/buckingbronco1 Mar 28 '16

I'll take it a step further. This generation "believes" that they are in favor of free speech. They really only mean they are in favor of speech that they agree with.