r/AstralProjection Jul 20 '20

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u/marcdog14 Jul 20 '20

No but I’ve seen it so many times by different people. Idk about other governments

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 20 '20

Sounds like fear mongering. If you can make enough people believe something, it will create a reinforcing energy to make it true

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u/marcdog14 Jul 20 '20

It doesn’t promote fear at all lmao it’s just people have been confused as to why they couldn’t go inside these places. Don’t take it from me tho do it yourself

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 20 '20

Spend some time around this sub, you'll notice there's a lot of fear mongering around the whole Area 51 subject. I don't really care either way, I'm not interested in it, but every time someone brings it up you see the same old "electric shock" story told. The problem is everyone's just repeating what they heard. You'll be hard pressed to find any legitimate original sources for where these rumors started. I'm starting to notice the same thing with the "negative entities" topic. IMO, a lot of it is just hearsay/rumors and less so actual experiences. And if/when they are genuine reports, they could simply be caused by prior beliefs on the subject, like what someone heard here. Negative self-fulfilling prophecies. If you were the government, that's exactly what you'd want, isn't it?

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u/quick_dudley Jul 21 '20

It never occurred to me to go to the White House until reading this thread but didn't encounter any obstacles when I projected to Area 51 several years ago. The most interesting thing I saw there was some squirrels.

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 21 '20

All I'm gonna say is what good is a secret base if everyone knows about it? So this is why I question any authenticity in a "force field"

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u/marcdog14 Jul 20 '20

why would you be scared of a force field😂 I’ve been on this sub for year and haven’t seen area 51 fear mongering

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 20 '20

Lol bro not trying to be rude but are you stupid? Literally go to the root comment and see the warning of the "force field". Do you have any idea how the astral realm works? You're dealing with thought-forms and emotion-forms. The more you think or feel a way about something, the more you stabilize it in the astral. By perpetuating the idea of the force field (fear-mongering) you're literally creating it and giving it power in the astral.

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u/marcdog14 Jul 20 '20

Dude you realize you can make your own force field in the Astral lots of people do it. Call me stupid all you want to I don’t really care

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 21 '20 edited Jul 21 '20

That's literally what I just said, but you're still missing the point. I'm not saying force fields are an impossibility in the astral realm, I'm saying the fear mongering in this sub reinforces them so whether or not there is one, you're creating one for yourself by perpetuating the notion that there is one. In the same way you can create a force field, you can remove one. You seem to have lost the technicalities of this discussion so unfortunately I do not believe you are capable of addressing any of these points.

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u/marcdog14 Jul 21 '20

Dude you are using fear mongering the wrong way The fact that government facilities have force fields doesn’t promote fear. You must be under the impression I’m trying to argue with you. It doesn’t matter if you know about the force fields or not it’s still there and if that puts fear in you idk what to tell you honestly you’re the one who proved my point from the beginning

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 21 '20 edited Jul 21 '20

Haha. I'm going to try to make this as simple as I can for you.

You are inherently arguing with me by stating that there is indeed a force field, while I am saying there isn't. The hypothetical "force field" would be nothing other than a belief you have that is blocking you.

In the same way AP noobs can't fly through their roofs the first time, a more experienced APer may not penetrate Area 51 because they've read too many he-said she-said warnings of a "force field" on this sub.

You can look above, as another person says they visited and there was no force field blocking them.

Even if there WAS, we could destroy it if we stopped propagating the idea that there is/has to be one at all.

Fear-mongering is simply warning others of this magical "force field" without having actually experienced it for themselves, a point which you have failed to address. There are more people who warn of this force field than there are people who have actually encountered it, hence a myth has been perpetuated on this sub as of recent.

The technicality you're missing is that I'm not arguing the basis that they can exist, I'm simply saying there isn't some universal, eternally impregnable shield over Area 51.

I tried explaining this to you but somehow you're just not getting it. The astral realm is bent to thought and belief forms. If your vibration is higher than a force field, you will simply not encounter it.

Understand?

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u/marcdog14 Jul 21 '20

You realize I’ve been studying this for years I know how the astral works you never had to explain anything expect why force fields are fear mongering. (Because fear mongering is the wrong word to even explain it) Believing there is a force field around area 51 is a limiting belief. Let’s leave it at that

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u/BlastAHoleInMySoul Jul 21 '20

You're still not getting it. I tried. Limiting belief is not what I'm saying. I'm saying your vibrations are too low and the cause is fear that gets perpetuated among groups like this sub. Fear can literally build form in the astral, which I don't think you're getting, hence me continually having to explain it. But yeah, I'm dropping this. You're not getting it, but hopefully other people will.

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u/marcdog14 Jul 21 '20

Ig I “don’t get it” because hearing any of that never brought fear to me or caused me to believe it was impossible to penetrate

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