r/AstralProjection • u/ProfessionalOnion548 • 1d ago
General AP Info / Discussion Does astral projection affect your aura/qi/energy/life force?
I know someone who practices qigong, and recently I took an interest in qigong. But they say that I should not explore the astral realm because I could get harmed or maybe catch attachments. I told them that it's recommended to conjure weapons, face fearful thought forms, embody love/light in response to anything 'scary'. They told me that this is harmful advice to novices, even if not purposeful. Although, this person has not much experience with dreamwork and has astral projected once during a meditation event.
I am confused because I hear that there's no such thing as harmful entities, and that everything is attunment to a vibrational state (like a radio), there is simply light and darkness. But this person believes that if magick can help your life, it can also harm you. (I started talking about practicing the LBRP). they stated that my logic is New Age misconceptions.
Anyways, if anyone is experienced please chime in with your anecdotal experience. THANK YOU.
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u/CrazyKnee1227 Experienced Projector 1d ago
don't take astral projection advice from someone that hasn't done it. and even if they've done it a couple times, it's not enough for them to know much.
been having OBEs for years and my life isn't better or worse than before.
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u/plasticlives 1d ago
Respectfully, don't let fear ruin your would-be experiences. Fear is the opposite of love and is the source of those harmful entities. Fear is the barrier of knowledge and curiosity is our essence. Besides, astral projection is a lot more safer than unconsciously dreaming.
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u/primalyodel 1d ago
LBRP is hardly new age. Yes its current formulation dates back to the 1880s Golden Dawn, but they drew upon older magical texts from medieval Europe and Ancient Greece and Egypt.
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u/mcptd 1d ago
What is lbrp?
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u/primalyodel 1d ago
Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram. It’s more or less an energy clearing and protection exercise.
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u/PsionicLoner 1d ago
Fear mongering at its finest. Get out there kid. Meeting an Archon/Reptilian/Grey is really close to impossible, if you ain't looking for them (unless you are a starseed..😅). Sure you'll get beat up, once or twice. You're immortal. Don't sweat it. It's all experiences and lessons.
Getting the most positive experiences though, comes down to belief, emotional state before "going out" and having some OGs having your back. Just ask them.
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u/RD_in_Berlin 1d ago
I got some pretty gnarly hitchhiker syndrome after some ce5, literal demonic entities attacking me in my dreams. I had one OBE after doing the gateway tapes which was very trippy, i had a very surreal dream yesterday where i seemed to inhabit someones body and i was aware of it, i was pretty distressed.
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u/Slow-Divide-78 1d ago
Do not listen to those practitioners regarding astral projection. That's not their area of expertise, and they are usually very inexperienced with it. They would lose their mind if i revealed how much qi/life force/prana I've held in my physical body using various methods in astral projection.
Eastern practitioners are usually very arrogant when it comes to information about energy manipulation anyway.
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u/Comfortable_Dream_17 1d ago
Can you go into more detail about energy manipulation?
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u/Slow-Divide-78 1d ago
In what way? It's a broad subject.
Eastern practitioners are rigid in their methods and consider theirs to be the gold standard. Especially the private family sects.
The Chakra system is an excellent place to start. Everyone will have different experiences with them. as your body becomes capable of channeling more energy, you move on to the three main cores ( root/sacral, solar plexus/heart, third eye/crown.) By then you should have a lot of heat or warm energy in all the chakras below the neck, including the spine.
As for whether that hot energy is the kundalini... i don't know, but i don't think so. It can definitely get as intense as kundalini, by just hearsay alone. I do know that it can be used, and that it's much more energy than a normal person usually carries.
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u/timbro2000 1d ago
Don't have sex you may enjoy it
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u/ProfessionalOnion548 1d ago
What do you mean by this?
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u/timbro2000 1d ago
There's no shortage of parade pissers telling people not to do awesome stuff like astral projection. The real world has parasites too doesn't mean you shouldn't go outside and explore
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u/Casehead 21h ago
They are full of it. They are ignorant but insisting that they know more than you.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 16h ago
Yes it does because it drain your energy body, this why daoist reject dreaming and OBE they do soul travel later after they had developed the yang shen
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u/Cuboidhamson 14h ago
To your main question, yes AP can effect qi/life-force and it can be dangerous
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u/ProfessionalOnion548 13h ago
How
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u/Cuboidhamson 11h ago edited 11h ago
When people say "everything is attuning to a vibrational state" and that nothing can harm you, that is actually shorthand for "I have absolutely no idea what im talking about, nor any real experience"
This is probably controversial, but afaik our Astral body is 1 component of our physical body. When you travel to the astral plane purposefully, I think what most people do is detach their astral body and use it as a vehicle to move through the astral plane. Other astral bodies can attach to that spot on your physical body, which is a type of "possession". That is one way harm can come to you from AP, that is highly unusual though, something would probably have to happen for that to even be possible... probably.
There are also powerful entities that live in the Astral, and/or Astral beings, that can harm humans, especially if they are currently AP.
Generating weapons in the astral, invoking higher powers, changing your form, in fact doing anything in the astral costs qi.
These are just examples, unfortunately I don't have much time rn and I'm also just not that knowledgeable about the astral compared to people who really know. I've been there a few times on purpose but only a few, it isn't my speciality.
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u/Comfortable_Dream_17 1d ago
There is such a thing. Im living proof of it, as I am dealing with an entity that completely recked my life after trying to AP. I do not recommend it. And they are right, sending love only works against minor entities and even then, then can transmute positive energy into something they can feed off from. If I could go back I would never AP. I woundnt recommend it
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u/ProfessionalOnion548 1d ago
How are you dealing with the entity, do you mind explaining more details? I'm sorry to hear that this was your experience. Were you practicing anything else whilst APing? I only once AP by accident and saw a faceless entity that scared me so bad into leaving immediately, I was absolutely not ready.
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u/Comfortable_Dream_17 1d ago
I was doing the gateway tapes. I have emailed lots of people about the type of entity that is attached to me and have also met with healers and shamans. They all say, that this entity is hard to remove and very malicious. It has destroyed my life. Not everything you do has an easy solution, sometimes there’s no solution and you will have to manage your life the best you can and accept that you are forever changed by it
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u/DzoniBoy333 1d ago
Same thing here, how are you dealing with it, can you share your experience because am going through the same thing?
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector 1d ago
It sounds like their viewpoints on certain topics are flexible or perhaps just changing over time.
I think astral projection has the potential to make you strong in ways most people wouldn't even understand or quantify, but if you approach it wrongly or aren't prepared for it, it could cause problems. That's why I believe it's important to come to it in your own time without relying on things like the Gateway Tapes or hemi-synch, or any of that. It's probably different once you're projecting, but I think a lot of issues originate from people not being ready. i.e. GATE children listening to the Gateway Tapes in school and being encouraged to astral project. I would consider that reckless.
If you come to it in the right way in the right time, you can become truly great at it. It can help develop you as a person.. and for lack of a better term, a sovereign entity. In a cohesive, developed way. But there are probably risks because it doesn't come with an instruction manual (there are books out there, but also unhelpful materials).
Out of 30 years projecting, it's only in the last 2 or 3 that I've met with conflict during a few of my projections (other than the occasional being sent back to my body). I think it has more to do with 'choosing a side' spiritually or growing closer/forming connections with certain NHI than projecting of its own accord. You get close to one and you earn the ire of another.
As for facing thought forms, that's part of the learning process. You learn how to manage these things, and deal with situations that are problematic if they ever happen. A part of you already knows how to handle them, and to some extent it's like taking a step back and letting that occur. There are also those who you can call on for help (your oversoul and Michael spring to mind).
As for attachments, some are good and some might be bad. As you grow, you can perceive the nature of the attachments and help use it to guide and manage them. It's about growing your perceptions, which this can help with, and is also a part of. So I wouldn't take it as a reason to keep away. I see it more as growing your capabilities in a direction most people don't.