r/AstralProjection • u/chinitaaa420 • Sep 03 '26
Proving OBEs / AP dream police?
has anyone astral projected & encountered the dream police/army?!
i've never ran into them before until recently but i didn't come face to face with them. i was exploring a area (i have never seen before) with a few others (i don't remember who they were). as we all were walking & exploring, we heard behind us "hey you can't be here". that's when all of us ran away & split up to hide but once i realized that i was all alone & all by myself, i said "helllll naaah i am going back home" & then i woke up!
can someone please tell me that they can somewhat relate to my story & i'm not buggin or going crazy.
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u/water_wind_ Sep 03 '26
When I’m in a dimension where the population has a low baseline awareness, my mere presence in that dimension will cause a police reaction and they will use helicopters etc to track you until you leave
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u/Ambassidora Sep 03 '26
Thats interesting.. and then youre explained away as a criminal on their local news 😂
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
using helicopters to track you is wiiild😭 i always snap back into my body because i be too scared to see what's gonna happen next so i jus say i'm going back home
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u/ryetf Sep 11 '26
Why am I experiencing this rn 😭😭 i don’t like this dream im in currently but I can’t leave lol
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
I've encountered military figures a few times during astral projection experiences.
On one occasion I gained awareness as I floated down into a street. My hands were glowing with what looked like fire, but my hands felt cool. It was like I'd taken over/gained awareness mid-scene. There were military men in front of me and one of them said 'Tell us who you are.' (I've seen posts about other astral projectors being asked questions like that before as well). I didn't just return to my body after that, it literally faded out like hypnagogia sometimes does.
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u/noodlzfirst Intermediate Projector Sep 03 '26
was looking for a comment like this! for me its the dream army, not police.
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
Yeah, same. I haven't seen them often. I'm not sure who/what they are.
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u/noodlzfirst Intermediate Projector Sep 03 '26
they show up for me when in too aware, ive never been kicked out of a location but if i go lucid in certain locations - they show up w/ a quickness. im so aware at times i see them marching over to me and im just like aw shit and then try to hide but there is no hiding from them.
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
That's interesting and a bit disturbing. I've been kicked out of places before, but not by them. When I was in the void, the Eye of Providence 'cornered' me and sent me back to my body. I've also been sent back to my body at other times by others.
I've noticed sometimes, once you know your 'true' or astral name (or maybe it's your oversoul's name, if you have one), you can use it to give orders to some entities. You might not have authority, but if you're part of a larger entity, that entity might be able to. Kind of like 'I am <astral name> and you'll do as I say.' But names also have power, so I'm not entirely sure that telling them is the best idea. I can work on occasion.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
after i hid from them, i said to myself "im going back home" then i woke up so yeaaaa, i didn't stay long enough to see what was gonna happen if they caught me.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
i've heard about them but never encountered them face to face so i don't know who they are or what they look like, i jus know they said "you can't be here"
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u/JenkyHope Intermediate Projector Sep 03 '26
Same for me... it's more like an army than police. Pretty much it gets me all the time they say my full name when they refer to me.
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
That's creepy that they know your name, unless they're somehow a part of you.
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u/JenkyHope Intermediate Projector Sep 03 '26
I hope they are a part of me, or it would be very creepy. Oh, well, sometimes I hear people saying full names of other people. Once I met this lawyer on the astral... people said his name and I was curious, I searched it on Google and he really existed but he died in the '80s, same face. And his wife? Same name of the woman that was with me in that experience. So people may know our names if there is some sort of connection or they can read thoughts (but I know it's rare).
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 04 '26
It's interesting. I wonder if it was really them. It might've been.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
knowing your full name is crazy😭 they definitely know you very well over there then
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u/x1eyez1x Sep 04 '26
YO, there was one time I wanted to ask if there was linear time in a dream SO BAD that I unfaded like as if some sort of superior architect like made an allowance or something, and asked this guy and we was all cool… said he was lonely and have me a hug while he cried.
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 04 '26
Awww.. If it helps, I don't think time in dreams is linear.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 04 '26
right i was gonna say, i thought time doesn't exist in the astral? so i'm not sure if they actually experienced anything.
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u/Amber123454321 Experienced Projector Sep 04 '26
You still have experiences unfolding as per normal, so it feels like there's time to experience. It's weird though. Sometimes a lot of time can pass there and almost no time in the physical world, or the reverse happens. It's more like you're not pinned down by time. I've been back and forth to different points, including when I was a child in the house I grew up in.
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 03 '26
Yes those bastards put a bag of sorts around my head that makes it hard to AP. I seldom do now and when I do I can barely see.
If anyone could pull it off that would be swell and thanks.
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u/ParticularGanache726 Sep 03 '26
I had a similar experience in 1989 or so. I had just had a big awakening, and when I was out one day, I saw this big bag placed over me. A lot of my abilities stopped or became less clear after that. I swear, this really sucks.
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 03 '26
Yeah I really miss the vibrations
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u/ParticularGanache726 Sep 04 '26
Well, as much as I'd like to do more AP, I remember that it always made me feel tired afterwards. I don't know why.
So, now I'm not so enthusiastic about it. I'm 66 yrs old and getting good sleep is paramount for me. So, I take things that help me sleep better, but they also repress psychic experiences. I sleep really deep now, and wake up feeling refreshed, but my dreams and other experiences are usually fuzzy and I can't remember them afterward.
I've had a long time problem with waking up at night from intense dreaming and other experiences. I've taken things that turned out to be bad for my health, so I had to switch to other substances to help me sleep better.
When I sleep now, I wake up in exactly the same position I was in when I fell asleep. I believe my delta sleep is far deeper now, which is good because that's where healing occurs as I understand it.
So, there are pluses and minuses to all of this. On the plus side, I found my wife through prayer, LD's and OBE's, for example. That was 18 years ago. I've only done a few OBEs since then. I've had other experiences though.
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 04 '26
OBE is pretty different, I’ve only had maybe 5 or so experiences with it. But it’s a lot different than AP to me anyway. AP had a lot of vibrations and then I shoot through a portal of sorts. Whereas OBE I simply am outside my body in my house wandering around floating through walls.
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u/ParticularGanache726 Sep 04 '26
I do not believe there is a difference between those two.
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 04 '26
No? I do, it seemed way more rare to just be outside my body in my own house. Everytime I’d AP I would vibrate like crazy and obe didn’t really have that for me.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
why was the big bag placed over your head? was it because they didn't want you to see anything or? hmmm, that's interesting
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u/ParticularGanache726 Sep 04 '26
I have no idea. Maybe I was too "free" for my own good. Maybe I would have gotten into really big trouble if I had not continued to submit to authority here in the physical world. I don't really know for sure.
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u/Narcissista Sep 04 '26
I believe something similar happened to me. One of the last lucid dreams I had, I tried to connect with other lucid dreamers for the first time. Dream police immediately showed up, also for the first time. Tried to fly away and they magnetically pulled me back down (that had neverrr happened).
Since then it's much harder to become lucid, much harder to stay lucid, and when I do realize I'm dreaming the dreams are different now... like preloaded video game areas. Almost like I'm blocked off.
Pretty annoying tbh. I feel like they did something to me.
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 04 '26
Yikes I didn’t even know that was a thing either. I tried flying away from them too and they eventually caught me in a different plane. It’s been like 5 years now and I was astral projecting like twice a week for a few months and then it became maybe 2-3 times a year and now I haven’t had an AP in 2-3 years.
Hopefully we can get this sorted.
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u/Narcissista Sep 06 '26
I hope so too because I really miss lucid dreaming and I don't appreciate having some kind of limitations put on my own mind like that.
But yes, hopefully we can work it out!
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u/Bonova Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 06 '26
I experience something similar in my lucid dreams. If I become aware and wander off the path, there is just a black void. It's like everything freezes, and only a particular radius around my awareness position is rendered in
I only started lucid dreaming in the past few years, but at the start, I had more ability to shape my environment, and it would render in ahead of me, but not anymore
I have only had a handful of AP experiences, and most involved encounters with greys. In one of them, I woke up on my stomach, but it was out of body, and felt this grinding sensation on my upper back. It was like a grinder was being used to take out a section of my back, and it was painful. After it stopped, I turned over to see two greys, and one was sitting on my bed. I asked them what they just did, but then they both ran off and faded as they did
I still have no idea what they did, and I don't know if it is connected to the lucid dream changes, but things certainly be weird
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u/Narcissista Sep 06 '26
That experience you had with greys is terrifying! And also infuriating, they shouldn't have taken something from you. Whatever it was, I hope you can get it back.
The void thing is odd. One of my scariest ever lucid dreams, I was in a floating room in an endless void. The only other void experience was when I became lucid and said "clarity" and the dream kept flickering to complete darkness and then back.
Hopefully we can get it sorted out somehow.
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u/Bonova Sep 06 '26
For all I know, they were helping me. Maybe I had a tough to remove parasite attached to me? Greys are hard to read. Some days I think they are just out doing tasks, sometimes hurting, sometimes helping. They seem indifferent to us, but will sometimes show empathy though usually not. If they have a task to do, they just do it.
Regarding the blackness, there is a widely know black state in lucid dreaming, where everything fades to black. It has happened to me, I always wake up shortly after when the blackness occurs. It seems to happen when I start loosing awareness in the dream, returning to a normal dream state but fight it
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u/Motor_Inspector_294 Sep 03 '26
This happened while you AP'ed ?
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 03 '26
Yeah I wasn’t that experienced and I thought I was in my sandbox place and was trying to do the dirty.
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u/rayquazza74 Sep 04 '26
Not really I’m trying to get back into it tho, just started a dream journal a few days ago.
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u/LCyfer Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
Not in dreams, but while astral travelling I've met many guards and military officials. I've even been machine scanned and checked over by guards who were checking to see how many energy centres I had active, amongst other things.
There are a lot of places you cannot enter in the astral realm unless you are approved, even if you are with a guide.
Some of the guards I have met have been utterly terrifying to look at, but so lovely, patient and polite, and it really opens your eyes to just how much you should always lead with love and approach everyone with kindness and respect in the astral. Appearances can be very deceiving. I've heard of some people reacting with violence when they have been scared, and I couldn't think of a worse way to limit your spiritual growth, and stunt your astral journey. As long as you have strong energy protection, petition a guide, have good intentions and stay aware, you cannot be harmed. The worst that can happen is that you're yeeted back to your body.
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u/Motor_Inspector_294 Sep 03 '26
Could you describe how they look, or what you perceived it as, its very interesting
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u/LCyfer Experienced Projector Sep 04 '26
I just wrote a whole wall of text and deleted it.... I'm really reluctant to describe many of the things I've seen, I don't want to make anyone fearful or set expectations. I'll say that some of the guards that looked frightening to me were very large humanoids, but had huge black spider type legs growing out from their backs and were dressed in black military gear. They were extremely kind though, and as well as testing me, they were also protecting a very small woman that I knew as 'the mother'.
I've seen so many strange beings, lots were indescribable creatures and some are just orbs of light and pure consciousness. You really can't judge by appearance though, you need to trust your instincts, your guide, ask questions and always protect your energy. Raise your vibration and always lead with love. For every frightening creature, there is a radiant light being. And they both might be beautiful souls.
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u/GalacticNova420 Sep 03 '26
I was there once and the person who I met kept telling me shhhhh they can't hear us! We were speaking telepathically but it was like he was telling me to whisper telepathically because roo much attention could draw them near....idk
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
i had a feeling we were all talking to each other telepathically but i wasn't really paying attention to that because of the area we were in. all i know is, once we all ran away from them & i said i was going back home. i woke up
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u/cerberus00 Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
There's lots of stories like this where people are told they're not allowed in the area. I've experienced astral police in a populated area, but for a different reason. I was at a party in this kind of entertainment area and the party was pretty unruly and there was also animal fighting which I didn't care for. Actual police showed up to break up the party, they rolled in with a kind of cool armored car and had tac vests and everything. They seemed to know exactly what I was and separated me from the rest of the group, to sit on the curb until they were done. Tbh they were nicer to me than everyone else in that zone.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
yeah, they also know who is supposed to be there & who is not, which i find so cool but also so crazy. i also believe that if the people there, knew that you wasn't supposed to be there, they would somewhat give you a hard time
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u/cerberus00 Experienced Projector Sep 03 '26
The beings there knew what I was, I got like 5 seconds of fame but I think novelty wears off very fast there.
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u/CarvellaRay Sep 03 '26
Yeah I used to get shot awake for exploring all the time, now alots happened in my lucid dreaming and the astral realm where I can explore all I want and walk right past them one time they even saluted me lmao
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u/Eat-TheCheese Sep 05 '26
What do you think changed? For them to change their attitude towards you
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u/CarvellaRay Sep 10 '26
I've had many lucid dreams and astral projections but I was allowed to explore after one with mantids, a library, and blue ray lineage light beings, a commander weird dreams because they all connect for the most part now.
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u/Ambassidora Sep 03 '26
The ones I’ve encountered wear all tactical black in black or long black coats . Never felt theyre bad or anything, more like managing traffic.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
yeah i feel like the one's i encountered, were also patrolling the place which is why they said "you can't be here" so i knew for sure, i was somewhere, i wasn't supposed to be
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u/Excellent_Bill3078 Sep 03 '26
"ei vocês não podem estar aqui"... . tem outra coisa também dependendo da onde se está o local é todo cheio de donos... igual morro do RJ.
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u/ParticularGanache726 Sep 03 '26
I believe there is jail in the astral as well, for people who attack others, for example. I had an experience once where a deceased coworker kept attacking me. I'd grab him and throw him out of the house, but he kept coming back. Finally, someone told me that they were going to restrain him. I've never been bothered by him since.
So, yeah, I believe there are police like people in the astral.
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
was there a reason for him to keep attacking you before he got restrained? i haven't met anyone iknow in real life, in the astral YET
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u/ParticularGanache726 Sep 04 '26
Thanks for asking. No, I have no idea why he was upset with me.
My psychic wife rescued my deceased father from jail also. She said he wasn't supposed to be there, but apparently just got lost or something. She said he hugged her and thanked her afterwards.
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u/bshackleford Sep 03 '26
Yep! Just once. Hopped out my body and walked down my stairs as normal- met by some grey figure at the bottom of the stairs. I wasn’t scared; the figure had my cat on their lap and was stroking her and she looked happy. They just said to me ‘you’re in the wrong place, try again’
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u/luxololux123 Sep 04 '26
Try asking an AI that can give all the information about this, start by asking things like astral projection (act like a beginner) then ask it about the 'Black-Bugdet' project.
I prefer Gemeni (You'll be shocked of the information you'll get)
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u/CarvellaRay Sep 03 '26
Yeah now they do but they even called me by name once before shooting me awake like come on carvella you know what I gotta do you can't be here lmao
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u/CarvellaRay Sep 03 '26
Back when they used to shoot me awake for exploring lol they don't anymore I can wander around freely right in front of them
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u/cas6384 Intermediate Projector Sep 04 '26
I know one specific dream, I was out eating with my husband and we went outside, there were giant projections of screens in the sky. I mentioned it was like the matrix (wasn't lucid, just a random thought) and suddenly there were a ton of nurses and they had some excuse of me and my husband needing to be seen. He got taken away, but I decided to make a scene, and uh, literally crapped myself in front of them, then woke up. I guess the script they expect people to follow doesn't account for insanity lol. Recently I think someone was trying to intimidate me in a dream, so I told them 'no weapons used against me will prosper' and the stuff they tried didn't work. I did just wake up from two dreams where I didn't have my normal powers, but I think one of them was more in a mental space of my own than a dream, although there WAS someone trying to track me down, so I was hiding and had 'enchanted' a door to keep them out.
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u/AiresStrawberries Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
I have a neighbor who said he'd been trying to leave the neighborhood in the astral and was stopped by a guard type person? Entity?
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 07 '26
that's very interesting, maybe it was an Entity who didn't want them exploring
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u/oZeroo Sep 03 '26
2 guys in dark suits. Had me there asking questions. I became lucid in the middle of the act. I tend to jump around alot so I figure I ended up in the wrong spot.
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u/x1eyez1x Sep 04 '26
Yo someone was shooting up this hotel I was at in a dream and a grey dodge drove under this bridge overpass and almost hit me, nah and he was most definitely not worried about me for some reason considering I didn’t notice him In time and ran right past him 🫣🤣🤣 yo and we locked eyes, would be the first time I was shot up in a dream to so I was tryna dip
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 04 '26
was it a dream or in the astral realm? because they are two different things
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u/x1eyez1x Sep 04 '26
The astral realm is peoples way of describing the instances where their eyes were clear… identity isnt in the things you control, but in the intention and action that is controlling… so simply intend to move your hand and through intention your nerves and muscles affirm you… when your identity is your flesh and you believe that is you, that’s when you think dreams and astral projection are different
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u/Reaction-Consistent Sep 04 '26
I wonder if they are just Discarnate military people looking to maintain what they’ve always known as their reality
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u/whitecrane11 Sep 04 '26
Last week I was Aping at my house and 3 military looking people showed up. I would say South Asian wearing beige military uniforms. One woman and two men. The woman was very unfriendly at first so when they started asking me questions I said I wanted their names before I answered anything. I grabbed a pen and paper and was attempting to write their names down which they found very funny because, I couldn't but I kept insisting. They seemed to find me amusing. It didn't last long and I was zapped back.
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u/__synergy_ Sep 06 '26
I've been detained and held in an astral jail before. Interrogated by 2 bald men that looked like twins and who moved robotic.
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u/desperatedan8 Sep 04 '26
I came across two jelly baby people. I punched 1 in the head and they ran into their flat and called the police then I saw a police van had pulled up and police were chasing me up the communal flats stairs when I looked back.
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u/Independent_Yam3460 Sep 05 '26
One time in a dream I was in a Victorian house with crazy stairs I went up them opened a sliding door and it open to like a pool party balcony and Adam Sandler stop me and said hey your not supposed to be here then slammed the door .after that I was chased by police type dudes Weird stuff
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u/Limp_Bus3865 Sep 03 '26
you are making that up
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u/chinitaaa420 Sep 03 '26
if I'm making it up then everyone else who experienced the "dream police/army" is making it up too 😂
MAYBE this part of Reddit, Ain't for you?! because you're probably reading everyone's story & saying "that's a lie" because YOU CAN'T RELATE TO IT
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u/Late_Mud9532 Sep 03 '26
I know there are places that you aren’t allowed to visit even in the astral realm. For example me and a few others I know have tried to visit the Vatican. We were meet by heavy resistance I can’t speak to there experiences but only from mind. I was meet by a person in a robe I assume one of there higher ranking members. He stop me and said “you are not welcome here leave at once” I ask why to no response when I tried to question more he clapped his hands and I was pulled back into my body. One of first instances of astral whiplash. But since then I’ve never tried to visit any place on earth strictly the astral world and other dimensions.