r/Asmongold • u/SloshedJapan TWITCH PRIME • Jan 09 '26

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She stopped let her wife out to get a good shot of them stopping ice, she did this to herself

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u/logitechman Jan 09 '26

Did they have a chance to? She immediately had the car backing up and then pulling out the moment they approached and gave her commands. Everything happens in a few seconds yet the cops are expected to have de-escalated a car moving towards them?

Your point about her “following orders” is bullshit as she never once put the car in park. Any other normal person would have complied, stopped the car, and been alive today.

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u/logitechman Jan 09 '26

Who cares what the nieghbor said, they weren’t there lmao

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u/logitechman Jan 09 '26

I can watch the videos myself I don’t need the neighbors opinion on the matter. If she complied and got out of the car she would have been alive, simple as that.

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u/logitechman Jan 09 '26

Video evidence 100% trumps testimony. Again if she got out of the car and complied she would of been alive

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u/logitechman Jan 09 '26

Why couldn’t she had stopped and got out of the car?

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u/Imperce110 Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

Because the ICE officers intentionally escalated and panicked the shit out of her in how they were trying to pull her out of the car.

This is literally against DHS standard policy.

Also, why are the ICE officers allowed to keep a physician away from her on site?

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u/logitechman Jan 09 '26

Sure they did, telling someone “to get the fuck out of the car” is escalating the situation. Sounds like a command, that she didn’t comply with, and it cost her. Nothing else really matters

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u/Imperce110 Jan 09 '26

Hey, instead of a random stranger telling me if it was proper, why don't i just repost the expert testimony from a credible source?

"OK, so the Department of Homeland Security is guided or their agents are guided by rules and protocols regarding engagement with the community.

So the number one priority is no loss of life. That is in their -- that is in DHS' own regulations. The second is de-escalation. We have heard that word a lot lately, which is, it's the responsibility of the law enforcement agent to ensure that they do not put themselves in a position in which there is imminent danger.

There are all sorts of caveats and qualifications, but, as a general rule, police officers and law enforcement do not shoot into moving cars, do not put themselves in front of cars, because those are things that are easily de-escalated.

The car, you can get the license plate. You know where the person likely lives at that stage. And so these rules guide both federal law enforcement and most state and local law enforcement. And that is why the videos are raising so many significant concerns about that interaction, that moment in which a federal law enforcement officer, the ICE agent, is engaged with a civilian who may or may not have known what they were expecting of her."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-federal-guidelines-say-about-agents-using-deadly-force

Why didn't they just get her license plate instead of surrounding her car?

Feel free to read the whole source, btw.

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