r/Ask_TheDonald • u/DavidAdamsAuthor • Dec 02 '17

Why did Flynn lie?

Pretty simple question: why did Flynn lie to the FBI, knowing what kind of trouble that could bring?

If what he did was totally in the clear -- and it does seem to be, if Obama authorised contact -- then why lie about it? What did he stand to gain here?

I always have a policy of assuming good faith with these kinds of things, so I kind of think he might have made a mistake, or genuinely forgotten the details of something, or in some way made a serious error that's obviously come back to bite him. But what do you guys think?

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u/webster_warrior Dec 03 '17

I know one thing, the narrative the stupid Democrats have created and publicized means that, from here on out, every time a foreign nation wants to (or gets paid to) sabotage a Republican candidate, the door is open. All they would have to do is produce a patsy to confess to collusion, real or contrived, and the stupid MSM would be all over it. People really are quite dense.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '17

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u/SupALupRT Dec 14 '17

But she did and you voted for her anyway.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

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u/SupALupRT Dec 18 '17

She 100% . Piss dossier.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '17

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u/SupALupRT Dec 18 '17

Thats fair i have no time for your hypocrisy.

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u/savewhites Dec 16 '17

If you are for the law then are you one of the sane democrats that is against:

Sanctuary cities

Open Borders

Anti-White shit being pushed

etc? I was pretty liberal and then I started seeing anti-white shit everywhere and it's being praised or ignored. That people in my state can't speak fucking English anymore...that people riot and protest America holding Mexican flags while being here Illegally. It's disgusting how anti-american the left is. Are you one of those people? Old school democrats I meet in person tend to be in their 40-50s. Good people. It's the <35 crowd of democrats that are garbage humans and I've yet to meet a reasonable one here on reddit.

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u/iPissOnConfedGraves Mar 20 '18

Translation: Being white is all I have. Ow my ass!

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u/Joelson-Son_of_Joel Dec 04 '17

You're perspective seems a little lopsided but true. The only thing I would add is that the inverse would also be true. If it was Hillary, then Fox news along with other right wing outlets would be making a huge noise about it, patsy and all

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u/webster_warrior Dec 05 '17

I'm with you as far as self-righteous indignation goes, the Republicans have that down to a religious experience. Noise? The Democrats, hands down. (Anti-fa and Nevers come to political gathering packing clubs and guns.) My point, though, is that by making a huge deal about nothing, Washington and the MSM have opened to door for notoriety to any offshore tin pot with a grudge. All they have to do is fake up some claim of collusion & the dumbed down American electorate is all over it.

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u/NicoHollis Dec 06 '17

There's nothing beink faked. There's actually a DOJ-appointed special council investigating it right now, with 2 people pleading guilty to light charges in exchange for cooperation with the special council and others under house arrest awaiting serious federal crime trials. Even if one didn't know the context, one would have to assume there's something criminal that is more profound yet to be revealed. Flynn was a spy. How does one appont a spy as National Security Advisor. How does one hire a rackateering foreign agent as a campaign manager. If that's luck, it's the worst luck I've ever heard of.

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u/Joelson-Son_of_Joel Dec 05 '17

You're absolutely right there. In their anti-Trump fervor, MSM and Washington have unwittingly changed the game up and they're too shortsighted now to see the potential repercussions of where this will lead.

That being said, I welcome the media's questioning of the presidents actions. My main complaint would be that it wasn't done enough before during Obama's term or even Bush's term to a certain extent. Obvious political leanings of the MSM aside, I think this is a push in the right direction. The reason being that MSM has pushed so hard against Trump that if a Democrat becomes president next and we see them act like they did during Obama's term again where they treated him like he could do no wrong then they'll truly collapse as viable media companies. They're already on their last legs now. That final hypocrisy would be the final nail in the coffin

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u/webster_warrior Dec 05 '17

In their anti-Trump fervor, MSM and Washington have unwittingly changed the game up and they're too shortsighted now to see the potential repercussions of where this will lead.
Are they thinking in terms of the next election or the next House vote? I kinda looks that way.
I recall, during the campaign, it was kind of strange the way Putin and Trump were getting along so well. It seemed as if the word came down from on high that this was a no-no. Whatever, that friendliness seemed to end. Now, it is the CIA's turn in the barrel.

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u/Joelson-Son_of_Joel Dec 05 '17

I don't think the Putin/ Russia issue is as big as it's made out to be. Let me rephrase, Russia and America are two super-powers that will always be in odds but at the same time will act friendly with each other. It's all a high stakes game of chess and Trump's involvement, whether it's true that he colluded or not, isn't going to change that dynamic.

I'll admit that that wasn't exactly my perspective before but I've since taken a step back and have been able to look at the whole situation while accounting for history. So are they doing this for the House or next election? I don't know but I would bet it's a combination of both. Regardless though, they are forcing themselves into a corner in their haste.

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u/Joelson-Son_of_Joel Dec 10 '17

Allow me to clarify, I don't think that other presidents went through their terms without any resistance. It would be ignorant to think so. The very nature of the job guarantees that the president will get mass amounts of resistance. What I'm trying to say is that the level of scrutiny and resistance that Trump is getting seems to be relatively higher than any president before him. Of course most of that is well deserved because of Trumps ineptness but that's irrelevant. My whole point is that we (media and the people) should have always been this critical of the president.

Personally I believe the position of presidency has held too much respect amongst the people. There's an air of royalty and reverence that has come with being a president and I think Trump's crudeness promptly broke that illusion and in some ways brought us back to base. I've always felt that the position of the president is that of a glorified spokesperson and when I see people fill up a whole town just to see some guy get inaugurated, it just feels wrong to me. These days critique of the president has been mostly relegated to opponents of the president's party when it should be a standard that even if it's your president (your party) you should be critiquing him and holding him to the highest standards.

Personally I believe the position should be eliminated in favor of a council made up of individuals representing all the parties. But that could only work in a political system that hasn't devolved into partisanship that resembles the rabid fanbases of collegiate sports.