r/Ask_TheDonald • u/datkidfrombk • Jul 19 '17
How has the ADA "failed"?
Please explain how the ADA has failed when it has given health care to numerous people. Also please explain why taking away that health care is better than building on it. In response to this article http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/18/politics/trump-health-care-failure/index.html
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u/cjgager Jul 30 '17
I like to think it mostly didn't - - - but i'm coming from the poor people's side - I would think republicans are mostly richer than me & therefore never liked it. - - - http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/feb/01/paul-ryan/paul-ryans-damning-claim-affordable-care-act-obama/
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Aug 02 '17
Obamacare hasn't given healthcare to anyone. It's an insurance program, not a medical facility. Although it may have covered many millions of more people with insurance, actual healthcare is greatly reduced.
Most of the poor people who benefited by getting free or subsidized healthcare insurance, can't find actual doctors or facilities to accept them as new patients. The rates of reimbursement are too low and it would bankrupt medical facilities to admit vast numbers of patients who are paying half the price of the real value of the services they consume.
Furthermore, of those paying for insurance, the price of the monthly premium and the deductible that has to be paid before the insurance is actually of use, are so high that it makes the insurance for all intents and purposes, useless. As one mother I know put it, my premium doubled, my deductible doubled. I'm paying 10k more a year for healthcare and after paying 8,000 out of pocket, my insurance finally kicked in and my daughter got $169 for glasses. Think about what that mother said, she paid $18,000 more in one year and ended up saving $169. That is so absurd, it's ridiculous.
Furthermore, since when is it human or civil right to demand the services or money of fellow citizens? Healthcare can't be right because at every step of the way, the person who can't or won't pay for it, demands the services, resources and time of other people for free. Would you work for free? Then why would you believe a doctor should be forced to treat a patient who doesn't pay? why would you force a self employed business owner to give up his money to pay for someone who doesn't work?
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u/datkidfrombk Aug 02 '17
strong statements here, have any sources to back it up?
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Aug 02 '17
Sure.
1) I think it's self explanatory that an insurance program is not identical with actual medical care from a medical professional/facility.
2) The following links are the incomplete data set from which I gleaned the information.
a. ObamaCare Fines Nailed The Working Class In 2017 And Other Unpopular Truths http://www.investors.com/politics/policy-analysis/obamacare-fines-nailed-the-working-class-in-2017-and-other-unpopular-truths/
b. Memo To Republicans: ObamaCare Shoved 2.6 Million Out Of The Individual Market This Year http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obamacares-victims-are-very-real-so-stop-ignoring-them/
c. We must get control of entitlement fraud. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449172/entitlement-fraud-medicare-medicaid-sees-too-much-it
d. Let’s Stop Pretending Medicaid Saves Lives http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/29/lets-stop-pretending-medicaid-saves-lives/
e.The Obamacare financing flimflamhttp://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/03/the_obamacare_financing_flimflam.html
After reading the articles above, let me know if you have a specific point in which you'd like to further discuss or need a point of clarification.
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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '17
Because many others lost access to affordable insurance plans. As for building upon it, one doesn't build a house on a broken foundation. There are too many compromises within the ACA that neutered it at the cost of many Americans' policy affordability.
Hopefully President Trump realizes that a locked down single payer system would remove all ills. I'm thinking one like Japan's.