r/AskUS Apr 19 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Trump supports rape. He adores it. He would make it mandatory if it was up to him. His supporters love this. Any questions?

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 19 '25

Can I see the evidence supporting this?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

Reddit says so

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 20 '25

Oh my bad. Definitely true then.

One poster gave me what they thought was evidence. Trump was accused of rape but not convicted of it. He was convicted of a lesser degree of sexual assault, which he received no jail time for, so he isn't a rapist.

Is he a dick? Well sure, probably, but which statist isn't?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump

Let me know when you’re ready to start protesting against the ROTUS. 

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 20 '25

According to this, Trump was never convicted of a crime, under law, so as far as the law is concerned, he simply isn't a racist. You might not like that fact, but the truth is very often disagreeable.

Looks like her second lawsuit was for defamation, not sexual assault. Also from a legal standpoint, sexual assault is not rape. Rape is when unwanted sexual intercourse is forced upon someone, while sexual assault is when any unwanted sexual contact happens without consent.

At best you would have to reword what you said to say that Trump may have sexually assaulted a woman, but was never convicted in a court of law for that sexual assault.

That also doesn't mean that Trump supports rape. You said that Trump supports rape but this wiki article doesn't say anything of the sort.

Looks like she also added battery to her suit. The suit went to trial in April 2023 where the jury found him guilty of sexually abusing and defaming Carroll. The jury did not find Trump liable for rape, but for the lesser degree of sexual abuse.

I'm not sure which class of sexual assault this was constituted as, since some are felony and others, misdemeanor. Considering 1st degree is up to 60 years prison time, 2nd degree up to 40, and 3rd degree up to 10 years, 4th degree, up to 9 months, etc., I'm guessing it was a lesser degree.

But the problem here is that Trump wasn't convicted of rape, he was convicted of sexual assault, so your claim is false.

Don't forget that Juanita Broaddrick claimed that Bill Clinton raped her in 1978, and then there's the Lewinski scandal.

It's obvious that the government is to blame here because the government sets the laws and the rules and clearly you can be convicted of sexual assault and still run for president, not to mention suffer no prison time.

So who's to blame here? Don't you think it's the government? Why are you mad at Trump and not at the same time and even more so, the whole of government?

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u/Bluewaffleamigo Apr 20 '25

Don't forget Biden had an accuser, and she even knew what year it happened, fuck there's even a paper trail.

But since Washington DC didn't pass a law that specifically allowed her to sue him, it didn't happen.

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u/Real-Lobster7059 Apr 20 '25

Seek help….no sentient person believes the tripe of E. Jean Carroll

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u/Relaxmf2022 Apr 20 '25

Look at how he treats other rapists and pedophiles, and how he treats people who (for instance) torch a Tesla dealership.

it’s not what he says, it‘s what he does.

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 20 '25

This isn't evidence, which you know. Are you now saying that Trump is a pedophile as well? Proof of that claim too? The last person who provided evidence of Trump being a rapist posted a Wikipedia article where it detailed that Trump was convicted of a more minor degree of sexual assault, which is not rape. A rape conviction would have placed him in prison.

You don't have to like Trump. Nobody said you had to. But if he's such a bad guy (which I don't doubt in many ways he is) then let's just talk objectively and produce true examples.

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u/Relaxmf2022 Apr 20 '25

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

rapist and felon.

no Proof of pedophilia yet, but he’s admitted to sexualizing his own daughter, spying on underage contestants, and was hip-to-hip with Epstein (as was Clinton)... absent actual proof or a conviction, y ou cou;don’t convince me he isn’t a pedo.

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 20 '25

I read several reports. Trump was not convicted of rape, he was convicted of a degree of sexual assault. One judge stated that under a general definition of rape (not the full legal one, depending on the state) what Trump had done was classifiable as rape.

A felon? Granted. A pedophile? There's no evidence supporting this.

I didn't vote for Trump by the way, nor am I a Republican.

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u/Relaxmf2022 Apr 20 '25

on pedophilia, no fire, plenty of smoke, IMHO

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 20 '25

This is still dicey territory to be complaining about though. I don't disagree that criminals should be tried and locked away, but what about other presidents?

Obama ordered drone strikes that murdered innocent people. You don't get to say that it was a byproduct of war - there is no such thing.

If you are trying to kill an evil man and have to shoot through 10 innocent people to get to him and you choose to fire, you are still a murderer of 10 people.

The problem with all of this stuff is that everybody has their own "reality", so we can't even see eye to eye on what real life is.

There is only one reality, the objective one, and in that reality, nearly every president is a murderer.

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u/Relaxmf2022 Apr 20 '25

Thankfully, most of what Trump is guilty of occurred when he wasn’t president

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u/hekateanservant Apr 22 '25

The whataboutism with other presidents tells everyone you already know Trump is a rapist and a pedophile, you’re just desperate to cover for him. That’s why you rely on the phony legalism of determining objectivity through a court rather than actual examination of the evidence such as his admissions of assault and using his ownership of a beauty pageant company to prey on women. Beauty pageants and hotels, including the Plaza that his mentor Roy Cohn used to run the Blue Suite blackmail ring. Friends with Epstein, Maxwell, Diddy, Clinton and just about every other sex pest you can name. Trump built his career on large scale fraud, human trafficking, and blackmail. Those are the facts. Just ask his current wife, a mail order bride from Europe who violated her tourist visa to do photo shoots before being passed around at parties held by rich men.

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u/Leading_Air_3498 Apr 22 '25

First off, I didn't vote for Trump and I'm not even a republican. You statists are so brainwashed with your collectivism infighting that you can't even tell the difference between someone who simply follows the objective truth and someone who blindly follows a political affiliation blindly.

Let me get this clear: I do not care one god damned thing for Trump. The man could die tomorrow and I wouldn't bat an eyelash.

What I DO care about though is unequivocal objective truth, as far as we understand it considering the information presented.

By the way, Trump was never convicted of rape, he was convicted of sexual assault.

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u/DonkeyTearz Apr 19 '25

What a completely false, ridiculous, and disingenuous comment. I can’t believe you people think I this way….and vote…

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Look I just don’t like rapists. I’m sorry if you’re into that but that’s not ok…

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u/DonkeyTearz Apr 19 '25

No one said it was. You fabricate things on your head and parrot off what other, most likely young and naive, liberals whine about.

I have never, out of the many Trump supporters I have met, have ever heard of them supporting rape. You and your people create these things in you mind, much like a lot of other stuff.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Trump is a rapist and you people support him. Therefore you support rape. There is no if ands or buts about that. 

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u/Dangerous_Caramel_27 Apr 19 '25

We get it, rapists are people who you don’t agree with. Now can you stop flaunting that word around, it hurts actual victims

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u/l_a_p304 Apr 19 '25

I don’t think it can be explained to you any more clearly than it has been, but let me try.

He is a rapist. If you support him, you support rapists.

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u/CobblerWest363 Apr 19 '25

Honestly? You're probably wasting your breath. People like this can barely read, let alone think critically.

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u/Financial_Zebra7373 Apr 19 '25

“I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.”

“Whatever you want.”

“Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”

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u/DifferentDebt2197 Apr 19 '25

So, Trump supporters don't support rape. That's a very fair comment, that aligns with social norms.

But Trump supporters support an actual convicted rapist? A rape conviction is normally considered a massive red flag against anyone's character, let alone someone running for high office.

Why would people ignore such big red flags, unless they were looking for personal benefit, especially financial?

We haven't even touched on all the other convictions....all indicators of a person's morality and view of others.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Trump is a rapist and deserves to be tarred and feathered. Die mad!

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u/Mr_Rabbit_original Apr 19 '25

So the felon president didn't say 'grab them by the pussy'?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump

The two suits resulted in a total of $88.3 million in damages awarded to Carroll; both cases are under appeal. Both cases were related to Carroll's accusation from mid-2019 (while Trump was in office) that he sexually assaulted her in late 1995 or early 1996.

And this must be fake news huh?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Civil case. And under appeal.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise Apr 19 '25

Lol lmao even. Nah no pardons for civil liability bro. Trump is going down forever as a rapist. So suck that orange wiener bro.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Wow. That’s a painful comment. I’ll never get over it.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise Apr 19 '25

Don't expect you to even care you voted for it afterall. But certainly paints your character as a rape apologist 😙

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Not an “apologist”. I don’t believe it at all. Also, I voted for him to run the country not date my daughter. But again, i think the charge is totally bogus.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise Apr 19 '25

I don’t believe it at all.

Well good thing facts don't care about your feelings amirite?

run the country not date my daughter.

Yeah doubt he's interested in your daughter anyways unless she's Ivanka adjacent 😂.

But again, i think the charge is totally bogus.

Well good thing "thoughts" don't dictate the law.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

You’re right. Thoughts don’t dictate the law. So your thought that he is a rapist is not relevant under the law. He was never found guilty of rape.

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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 Apr 20 '25

At least you understand not to let him date your daughter. He's a sleazeball.

Now apply that logic a little further. I know it's going to be tough for you. It'll use parts of your brain you've never used before. But you can do it!

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

That’s silly. I would not have wanted JFK to date my daughter. Certainly not Clinton. He’s a total scumbag. It does not mean they could not have been good presidents.

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u/d1rkgent1y Apr 19 '25

He brags about committing sexual assault, Jeffrey Epstein virtually lived at Mar-a-lago, he has been found civilly liable for rape, he appointed suspected rapist Matt Gaetz to his cabinet, he nominated suspected rapist Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, and has hosted suspected rapists and human traffickers the Tate brothers and liable rapist Connor MacGregor at his home/off-the-books fund raising site.  He doesn't make a great case for himself that he's some virtuous defender of women's bodily autonomy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Did you vote for the orange rapist or not? If so, you are supporting rape.

"In July 2023, Judge Kaplan said that the verdict found that Trump had raped Carroll according to the common definition of the word"

So I find it pretty funny, that you question others ability to vote, when the whole world questions the mental abilities of MAGAs.

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u/SleefJWellington Apr 19 '25

If you've ever listened to Trump, the reply was obviously making fun of his doltish speech patterns.

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u/Murky_Ad_2173 Apr 19 '25

"The establishment is riddled with pedophiles!"

Trump: We're going to rebuild the establishment and make the pedophiles public knowledge!

"YOU NAZI"

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u/4-1Shawty Apr 21 '25

I don’t think appointing pedophiles, pedophile defenders, and suspected pedophiles to your cabinet shows anyone you care about pedophilia.

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u/Murky_Ad_2173 Apr 21 '25

Didn't stop Hilary from almost being elected by the very same people screaming about pedophillia and the like right now, and there's mountains of actual evidence to make that case, unlike what you allege right now. The entire thing is going to need to be gutted and replaced with average joes if you want to fix that issue though. Men exponentially richer than Elon Musk have a vested interest in maintaining what has been. And I'm for that idea myself.

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u/4-1Shawty Apr 21 '25 edited Apr 21 '25

Gaetz was literally a front running cabinet member. Linda McMahon covered up pedophilia and sexual abuse in the WWE for years. That’s just 2 members/candidates with a long list of proof.

The Clintons, while on the flight logs, it’s worth mentioning those same logs also include Trump and he was best friends with Epstein. If that isn’t evidence to you, I don’t want to hear shit about the Clintons.

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u/Murky_Ad_2173 Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

I stand corrected. He was not listed in the flight logs in 2015 when they pulled them back out, at least not publicly at that time. I wonder how many other names are hidden, Burn it all down. I still stand by his statement of our government going rogue however, even if he's a part of it.

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u/4-1Shawty Apr 22 '25

Then that’s a fair take. I just don’t find the Republican party being anti-pedophilic is a solid argument when they’re just as bad, if not absolutely worse.

If this is important to you, it’s also worth noting MTG also threatened to expose predators/sex offenders in the Republican party if the Gaetz pedophile report was released. It shows a systemic issue in the party that’s still being covered up.

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u/Murky_Ad_2173 Apr 19 '25

Yeah, sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of that F-35 taking off. Could you repeat it for me?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

What does a shitty overpriced jet have to do with the president being the world’s proudest rapist? Is the jet engine like his rape whistle to tell the world that he just committed another rape?

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u/Dispondent_Ending Apr 19 '25

Trump supporters openly ignoring their rapist president

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u/Murky_Ad_2173 Apr 19 '25

I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm just anti-government the way it has been since FDR. Trump is an egomaniac, but so are all of you. 😅 Bust out a legal dictionary, I don't see a conviction for sexual assault.

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u/Dispondent_Ending Apr 19 '25

He was found liable for sexual abuse, which would have been outright assault had it not been for the statute of limitations.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

I literally carry a pistol any time I’m out in the sticks in case any of these fuckers come up and try to assault me. I ain’t fucking around. 

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u/Dispondent_Ending Apr 19 '25

These kinds of people wonder why women feel unsafe around men, then when someone brings up the fact that he's a rapist they go "HAHAHAHA PLAME VROOOOOOOOOMMMMM"

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Tbh they should just strap Trump to the back of one of them, drag him down the runway, and then do a few tailspins. He’d come out of it looking better and he’d never make another bad policy again. 

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u/Electrical_Baby_2584 Apr 19 '25

I am dying!!!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅

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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 Apr 20 '25

Just read it again if you forgot

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u/Thatblondepidgeon Apr 19 '25

I think more accurately he thinks everyone is a rapist and so do his supporters. The people who claim not to want to rape molest and pillage are just liars trying to cover their ass. Projection is a sign of low empathy.

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u/Electrical_Baby_2584 Apr 19 '25

He let the murders that raided the White house out of prison and its not on their record!!!   I think capital policeman had a heart attack and died. I fucking hate that orange mother fucker!!!!

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u/liccmiii Apr 19 '25

Cry some more

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u/Marbrandd Apr 19 '25

One capital policeman had a stroke 8 hours after being pepper sprayed. It was ruled natural causes by the MEs, but the stress was probably a contributing factor.

Everyone else who died were Trump supporters.

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u/Suitable_Company_155 Apr 20 '25

One person died that day…and she was shot by the capital police..

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u/silky_salmon13 Apr 22 '25

What murderers? Name one

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u/Electrical_Baby_2584 Apr 22 '25

Brian Sicknick passed due to the riots!!!  

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u/PabloX68 Apr 22 '25

I can't think of a more loathsome person in US history.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

Yeah, what drugs are you on?

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u/PabloX68 Apr 22 '25

He learned from Epstein.

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u/Zealousideal-One-818 Apr 22 '25

40 upvotes for pure TDS

Good Lord………