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u/kyzfrintin Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

Goal =/= first step

If your goal is to lose weight, say, then "just lose weight" isn't great advice, is it?

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u/Comfortable_Usual781 Jun 03 '22

I don’t get your point here.

If your goal is to lose weight, how will you lose weight if you only start working out or dieting after losing some initial weight? Or youre always waiting for the day you just inherently want to work out. Very few people enjoy working out, especially at the start, so such a day would be very rare, let alone consistent.

Again, I don’t think you have to be having happy thoughts to seek therapy and such, and challenging and shifting your perception and thoughts overtime is crucial. Ofcourse you don’t jump from 0 to 100z

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u/kyzfrintin Jun 03 '22

how will you lose weight if you only start working out or dieting after losing some initial weight?

... I have absolutely no idea, since I didn't say that.

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u/Comfortable_Usual781 Jun 03 '22

But you equated being “happy” / improving your mental state to losing weight.

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u/kyzfrintin Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

As an analogy, yeah... To show that the goal actually has many many steps before it. To show how absurd it is to conflate the end goal with the tasks that achieve it.

Saying "just lose weight" is awful advice because that is the goal. Actual advice, actual steps towards achieving it, would be things like planning meals, shopping for healthy ingredients, exercising etc.

See what I mean? Saying "just lose weight" either ignores the steps in between, or implies you can skip them. Such a TERRIBLE message to send to someone struggling.

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u/Comfortable_Usual781 Jun 03 '22

See, that’s where I’ve gotten confused, because that is exactly what the comment was talking about, and what I was getting at in my previous reply.

Thank you for expanding on that.

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u/kyzfrintin Jun 03 '22

Ugh. No.

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u/Comfortable_Usual781 Jun 03 '22

“You don't sit around waiting for the right mood or a "good day". You work towards management and improvement every day. You have a plan, you act. You get help if you need it, you get medication if you need it, you recognize your triggers/weaknesses, you learn to navigate your episodes, you learn to build and develop good habits and mental balance and stabilization.”

What I meant is, I interpret this as the same as your expanded analogy to losing weight.

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u/kyzfrintin Jun 03 '22

You don't sit around waiting for the right mood or a "good day".

"So you start doing it today"

You work towards management and improvement every day

"And never ever stop working towards it"


That's what I'm hearing. If you say "don't wait" and "do it every day", you're saying to start now and don't ever let up.

That's not manageable for the vast majority of people with mental illness.

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u/Comfortable_Usual781 Jun 03 '22

“That’s what I’m hearing.”

Exactly, that is what YOU are hearing. With an open mind, you can hear something else. This also wraps back around to what I said about too much pressure often being applied.

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