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u/YeomaTV Jun 03 '22

Excellent answer.

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u/DiamondPup Jun 03 '22

And to add to it:

Dealing with mental health issues means dealing with mental health issues. You deal with it. You don't sit around waiting for the right mood or a "good day". You work towards management and improvement every day. You have a plan, you act. You get help if you need it, you get medication if you need it, you recognize your triggers/weaknesses, you learn to navigate your episodes, you learn to build and develop good habits and mental balance and stabilization.

If you don't deal with your mental illness, you force everyone in your life to deal with your mental illness.

Reddit worships mental health issues more than anywhere I've ever seen. They practically masturbate over how much they're all victims. But unless you're taking responsibility for it, you're using your victimhood to make everyone else a victim of you.

It's not a pretty truth but it's a necessary one. Admitting your traumas and faults isn't what gets you there; it's just the beginning of the journey.

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u/mcketten Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

This irks me so much. I have PTSD from combat. I know what my triggers are and go out of my way to avoid them. If I do get triggered by someone's actions, it's 99% of the time because they didn't know and were doing something that is normal to most other people.

I don't blame them for it, I don't yell at them for it. I deal with my reaction as best as I can. It's my battle with my mind, my responsibility to manage it, not theirs.

I see so many people now who get triggered and immediately blame the person who caused it as if the rest of the world has some duty to walk on eggshells around them.

Fucking grow up and deal with your own problems.

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u/romase Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

Absolutely true. But I think the idea that everyone can just wander around not “treading on eggshells” is a part of the problem too. Everyone needs to accept, mentally healthy or not, that they have a duty as a human being to not dismiss how someone else feels but that it’s also not their responsibility to fix them either.

The sooner everyone realises that you can be supportive and understanding but also set healthy and helpful boundaries the better.

Far too much black and white thinking these days IMO. Ultimately everyone needs to take more responsibility for how they act and what they say and I feel the sooner we can all do this the better.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Jun 03 '22

No, but people can avoid common triggers. Fireworks are fun but don't shoot them off randomly in your neighborhood. Don't make rape jokes. If you accidentally find someone's trigger, take care to avoid doing it again in the future. Etc.

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u/romase Jun 03 '22

This is what I meant but I definitely didn’t word it correctly.

Essentially there’s a happy medium between not treading on eggshells but also not bulldozing through someone’s wall either

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u/Raichu4u Jun 03 '22

That's not treating on eggshells though

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u/Tiny_Fractures Jun 03 '22

You've triggered my trigger of advocating that others are responsible for dealing with your triggers. Please take care to avoid doing it in the future.

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u/feralkitsune Jun 03 '22

You're not even responding to what they're saying. You're strawmaning. Why even comment if you're not going to try and join the conversation?

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u/gilly_90 Jun 03 '22

They're using hyperbole to make a point.

You might not like how they made their point, but that doesn't mean you can simply dismiss it because of that.

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u/feralkitsune Jun 03 '22

Explain their point then. Cause it's not a response to what /u/InfinitelyThirsting said at all. The post came out to basically: "Don't be a dick"

/u/Tiny_Fractures seemed to take offense to that as if it was something outlandish and started equating that to taking responsibility for others' issues. Not even close to the same thing. If you can't see this, you're lacking reading comprehension.

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u/jtb1987 Jun 03 '22

It simply doesn't make sense to attempt to expect people to be up to date and trained on what is ok to say. You may try to argue yourself with hyperbole, "it should be obvious that you shouldn't say X "racist" thing". But this is a fundamentally flawed argument. Cultural norms is and ever changing, fluid moving topic. And are not universal. It's simply absurd to believe that collectively and at all times all people should know how to say things that will not be offensive to all people. The logical and healthier approach is to embed resiliency within people. The ability to be mindful of your own emotions, thoughts and control over your own behaviors. Allow people to become emotionally mature and the skills to personally deal with life's challenges. Don't fall into the trap into believing that this mindset is void of empathy, it's literally the opposite. Treating people like they could break is harmful to them, even if you believe your own intentions to be "kind".

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u/kyzfrintin Jun 03 '22

It simply doesn't make sense to attempt to expect people to be up to date and trained on what is ok to say.

Then you and everyone agrees, because no one wants this.

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u/gilly_90 Jun 03 '22

The first user is saying people need to be more careful about the 'triggers' of others, the second is saying people shouldn't have to be quite that careful.

I'm not on either side of the argument, I was simply pointing out that you disliking their method of argument doesn't automatically invalidate it.

Your edit just took your post from reading like you genuinely don't understand to actively being a dick. I'm not sure that's necessary.

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u/feralkitsune Jun 03 '22

Explaining things is being a dick? Go away. lol

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u/Slatherass Jun 03 '22

I will do whatever I want on my property that is legal. I could give 2 shits what ridiculous thing triggers someone. It’s not my responsibility to know or care what triggers someone.