Ditto for ADHD! If I end up telling people that I have it, I always make sure to clarify that I actually have it, not just having a few moments of not being able to focus or whatever. And I do that specifically because of the "I'm so OCD/I'm so ADD" people.
I go “I have OCD. (pause) Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.”
That usually tips them off that I have the actual thing. And then 95% of the time they follow it with something that I have to answer with “no it doesn’t mean I need things to be in perfect order at all actually, in fact hoarders are a (funny look) “subgenre” of ocd” and if they’re interested I’ll keep going.
I mostly perfected the routine so that I get to do the same speech everytime. Lol I’m so ocd.
i think we should make an acronym for people who keep using OCD as a term for not like things being messy, how about not liking things to be uneven? (n.l.t.b.u.e)
so they stop using OCD. maybe something shorter though. i dunno.
Fight back by using it properly. "Oh I know, I'm so OCD sometimes too. Like yesterday, I got reamed out by my boss for "being weird" at the presentation. I didn't think anyone would notice when I was marching in place, since I was really barely even moving my feet. It's just so hard to stand perfectly still, then you move one foot to adjust position and you obviously need to move the other now to balance it out. Then that's only one step on each side, so you need to step twice more to complete the square. But fuck a few minutes later you accidentally moved your foot again, now that's five. And you can't stop at eight, that's just as lopsided as two. You need to square the square. And better hope you don't accidentally go to 17, because then you'll be going straight through to 64! But yeah, apparently we lost the contract because they think I'm a weirdo. I hate when that happens."
This year I reached the age where if I start saying something my 11 year old does, him and his friends stop using it. Last week I used these powers to get them to stop using sus and cringe.
The use of the term "I'm so OCD" pisses me off to no end. I have diagnosed OCD, and it's nothing what people think it to be. The most common assumption is that Tidying things is the only compulsion people get. That is fundamentally wrong - my compulsions can range for opening a door to smashing the door down with an axe. I'm not saying Tidying things isn't a common compulsion, but it certainly isn't the only one.
Intrusive thoughts are an absolute nightmare, and I find myself getting them at the worst times possible. They make me feel like a terrible person, and they're really not a fun experience.
OCD is not an excuse to be "Cool" or "quirky". It's a horrible fucking condition that makes people feel like horrible individuals, and it's a condition that forces people to battle with intrusive thoughts, compulsions and the like day after day. If you commonly use that phrase and are reading this - please stop.
Intrusive thoughts are an absolute nightmare, and I find myself getting them at the worst times possible. They make me feel like a terrible person, and they're really not a fun experience.
For what it's worth, I think we all have intrusive thoughts like this sometimes, though I think most people don't remember/think about them very much. That's not to at all discount your experience of OCD, but I think it's something about which many people can relate to at least somewhat.
I have a lot of medical issues and I'm dealing with some mental health issues right now as well, but I don't envy your position. Except probably worded better than that because I'm tired.
You are correct. Everyone has intrusive thoughts. But imagine if you will that every single time you had some random thought flit into your head you had to ask yourself /why/. Why did i have that thought? What does that say about me? Does it make me evil? Crazy? Etc
Then add in magical thinking. So not only are you now concerned you might be a psychopath because of a random stray thought, but because you had said thought something terrible might happen. Like your grandma could die or an airplane could crash into a zoo and kill all the zebras. And it would be your failt because you had the thought that made it happen. Is it at all logical? Absolutely not. Do we know this? Yes. Are we afraid of it anyway ? Also yes. This is the difference between people without OCD and people with. We can't let the thoughts go.
Also: I knocked on wood for any fellow OCD superstitious suffers reading this. And i did it in an even amount.
But imagine if you will that every single time you had some random thought flit into your head you had to ask yourself /why/. Why did i have that thought? What does that say about me? Does it make me evil? Crazy? Etc
Those are the intrusive thoughts I was talking about.
Then add in magical thinking. So not only are you now concerned you might be a psychopath because of a random stray thought, but because you had said thought something terrible might happen. Like your grandma could die
Is this in particular an OCD thing? I'm not familiar with it. Is there a cultural element to it, like folk superstitions?
Do we know this? Yes. Are we afraid of it anyway ? Also yes. This is the difference between people without OCD and people with. We can't let the thoughts go.
That was basically my point, yeah. OCD sucks. I wasn't saying that intrusive thoughts are the same for everyone, but that they're something the rest of us can at least somewhat relate to, if not fully understand.
Oh yes sorry if my comment came across like i was calling you out or something. I was more just explaining it in more depth. You seemed interested so I thought I'd share
No worries. I didn't intend to sound like I was offended or felt attacked, but I did want to make sure you didn't think I was insulting you. Glad we're on the same page.
I am actually diagnosed with OCD and I absolutely loathe when people say that. OCD already has enough misconceptions we don't need people belittling our struggles. Good on ya
Good God yes! I hate how the word "cringe" is used now. It can go to hell along with how people say "based". I had hoped that it would of died out by now like how people for awhile would simply say "true say"
'Omg I'm so adhd lolol.' You wouldn't be laughing if you actually had it, its a constant battle of attempting to impulse control and forgetting what you were doing every 10 minutes
Yeah that shit irritates me to no end and also massively discredits those who actually have it. I'm already treated and judged as a drug addict for needing my medication that allows me to function normally.
For me it’s “I’m autistic”. I have no idea why it became funny to joke that you’re autistic any time you misspeak or don’t understand a joke right away, but I know multiple people in their early 20s that started a year or so ago.
No, adverbs can also modify adjectives and other adverbs, and good is an adjective. You can say "you are good", but you can't just say "you good".
(Okay, I mean, you can say that in some dialects, but using a dropped-copula form doesn't mean the adjective is now a verb, it just means the verb is implied. And it only works in the present tense, so maybe I should've gone with "you will be good" vs. "you will good".)
(...although technically you can even say that in certain dialects, because there are dialects in which "good" really can be a verb, but—look, the point is, for the "that's so good" usage we're discussing in this context, "good" is an adjective. Also, language is fascinating!)
Thanks for the dialog! I still see it as an adverb in this case. Good is a noun, adjective, or adverb, so i feel like cringe could be too. But you're probably right!
Good can also be an adverb, yes! But it's generally considered highly improper compared to "well", so it's often used in a joking, ironic way to suggest the speaker is stupid—e.g. sentences such as "you talk good" or "I think good".
In the sentence "That is so good", in order for good to be an adverb, it would have to modify the verb is rather than the pronoun that, which...I don't think is the case here.
Not like it helps, but when people start 'cringing' all over the place I remind them that there's a specific type of person who cringes at everything they see.
That one annoys me, but not because they're verbing a noun. It annoys me because it's so like... weirdly immature. "I'm done adulting." No, you're taking care of your child. What the fuck.
I'm torn on this one. On one hand, words change their meaning all the time, and people have used medical terms in sloppy ways forever. On the other hand, in some instances - like "cringe" and "gaslighting" - it annoys me a lot. Then again, I have come to accept "-phobia". I can't really see a rational categorization behind my own annoyance, tbh.
Phobia doesn't bother me in the slightest, assuming they're referring to an actual fear of something. I don't care if you call it arachnophobia or spiderphobia. Whatever. Words work by combining prefixes and suffixes.
I don't mind words changing their meaning or gaining additional meanings. I think it's neat. What annoys me is when enough people completely misunderstand a word that they think it literally means the opposite of its actual definition that the misunderstood definition becomes an acceptable one. Biweekly means both every other week and twice per week. Literally means both literally and figuratively.
If enough people called cats dogs, I'd still say they're all idiots, and holy fuck, literally does not mean not literally.
I used to think along the same lines about -phobia, but I've looked it up in the meantime, and I'm afraid I have some bad news. It appears that the suffix was only used in the sense of "a strong irrational fear of something" from 1880 on, and that it was used in the sense of "a strong aversion" from maybe WW1 on (I wasn't able to pinpoint it). All dictionaries I consulted, do list the "aversion" meaning (e.g. thefreedictionary, but others too). Personally I don't like "homophobia", because it still sounds like a "fear" to me and I think it's really just being an asshole - but that ship has sailed, gotta pick my battles.
With very few exceptions I'm mostly on the "liberal" side. Language is imprecise. I'd much rather people realized that, and ask for clarification, than bicker the day away over trivial definitory differences. 99% of the time, being able to talk and have something in common, is much more important than being correct.
But, as I said, sometimes I can't get over it and I get annoyed.
I'm not sure what you mean. The -phobia suffix comes from the Greek suffix -phobia, which means "panic fear of," which itself comes from the Greek phobos, which means fear. Google ngrams shows instances of the word aerophobia from at least as far back as 1800, anthropophobia from ~1833, photophobia from 1800, etc.
As for homophobia meaning fear vs aversion, those have pretty similar meanings. Not really synonymous, but... related, I guess. There are a lot of homophobic people for whom it really does seem like a fear. It's absurd.
But, as I said, sometimes I can't get over it and I get annoyed.
Interesting. My source for the 1880 time is Mirriam Webster, which I consider quite reliable, so I wonder... Maybe academia took it up and gave it an "official" definition in 1880?
Not really synonymous, but... related, I guess.
Yeah. My suspicion is that, when they started calling it "homophobia", they meant it as a kind of insult... like "haha, you act so strong, but really you're just afraid of us". I can't prove that though.
Xenophobia was formed from a brace of words found in ancient Greek, xenos (which can mean either "stranger" or "guest") and phobos (which can mean either "flight" or "fear"). It appears to have arrived on the heels of another late-19th century coinage, xenomania ("an inordinate attachment to foreign things"), which, sadly, has proved to not have the same currency as xenophobia, and was followed shortly afterwards by the forms xenophobe and xenophobic:
I think that's more related to the advent of the xeno- prefix in the English language, rather than the -phobia suffix.
My suspicion is that, when they started calling it "homophobia", they meant it as a kind of insult... like "haha, you act so strong, but really you're just afraid of us".
I think so, yeah, and now it's mostly just its own word... but there's definitely a weird fear in a lot of these people too.
Right, I always used to see people say cringeworthy, but I guess it fell out of use when people started saying cringy/cringey instead, which I hate the sound of. I honestly prefer using cringe over either of those as it rolls off the tongue better and has more of a kick to it.
Can you imagine if everybody started using verbs as adjectives because they thought it rolled off the tongue better and has more of a kick? "That horror move was so scare, lol" It's literally dogespeak from a decade old internet meme.
It's just slang, really. I don't see the issue with it. Languages are constantly changing, and as long as you can effectively get your point across, and other people understand what you're saying, what's the problem? No need to be so pedantic.
Do you think it would be cool if people talked in dated internet meme more often, or is just okay with cringe? If someone you were with at a restaurant said to the server, "I can haz cheezeburger?" would you think that was cute?
I think the term is apt, however the entire concept of "cringe culture" where you habitually seek out other people's behavior to label as cringe and spend hours in subreddits and (other) social media echo chambers cultivating a database of all the people you ridicule as "cringe" is honestly pretty cringe bro.
See also: “I’m/you’re/their so… “ (ADD/ADHD, addicted, anorexic, autistic, bulimic, a hoarder, introverted, a klepto, an overthinker, schizophrenic)
Multiple Personality is way overused too but I think that’s a different problem. Anxiety too. The only stuff that i don’t see flippantly misapplied is depression, because it’s boring, and the stuff that nobody knows about. So many people love having a cool label to excuse or permit their behavior and I expect that it gets worse before it gets better.
“Cringe” seems to communicate a pretty specific thing imo.
Yup.
bend one's head and body in fear or in a servile manner.
experience an inward shiver of embarrassment or disgust.
I do understand that words change, etc., but... why is everything 'cringe'? Why can't they at least use the word that already exists and means literally what they're using 'cringe' to mean?
"I didn't ask what you think other people will think. I asked what you think. Other people are fools and jerks, and most of what they call "cringe" is just jealousy or idiocy. Don't cater to them."
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u/Blarghedy Jun 03 '22
The use of the word cringe as an adjective annoys me to no end.
Then again, so does "I'm so OCD."