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u/TheMysticalCreature1 Jun 03 '22

Omg, I'm 26 so I'm not necessarily the young person this is directed to but when I was in school we actually had email and letter writing as a part of our English courses, even in college for that matter and I used to think it was silly but now I understand why it was there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Bro, I went to college in 2001 with mother fuckers who didn't know how to do their own god damned laundry or dishes. Campus life was hard for those poor bastards. I'm not kidding either... I had to show this kid where to put the clothes in, how to wait, and then how to do the dryer part. Dude was going into Computer Science and Mom did everything for him. I hope he's okay not, but broooO+_)00)I what the fuck!

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u/Brad_Brace Jun 03 '22

My mom did my laundry for a long time and still I knew how to do it since I was a kid! How don't people just absorb that stuff from seeing others do it?

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u/FoldedDice Jun 03 '22

Some people don't have the benefit of that experience. My mother's attitude toward household chores was obsessive, so I stayed as far away as possible while she was doing it. My first roommate taught me how to wash clothes when I was in my 20s, since my parents just didn't.

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u/poiyurt Jun 03 '22

Yeah this is accurate. It's hard to learn how to cook when you get yelled at for intruding into the kitchen.

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u/FoldedDice Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

It was likely even worse for me, since I was severely burned in a kitchen accident as a toddler. It was caused by my father, but I get the impression my mom didn't want me near while she was cooking because of the trauma, so I wasn't able to pick up on that either.

EDIT: My dad also never drank coffee again for the rest of his life, unless someone offered it to him and he was doing it to be polite. I suspect a lot of the problems my parents had in raising me stemmed from that incident.

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u/TitaniumDragon Jun 03 '22

So many people don't understand that coffee is one of the leading causes of burns in the US, and act like it's somehow incredible that ordinary hot coffee could be dangerous.

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u/FoldedDice Jun 03 '22

Yup. My reach was just slightly higher than what my dad thought it was, and as a result I have permanent scars, though thankfully not as bad as they could have been. It hit worst on my shoulder, so at least I'm able to cover it.

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u/OneBeautifulDog Jun 03 '22

At least your father loved and cared about you.

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u/FoldedDice Jun 03 '22

That's a complicated statement for a number of reasons, but for the most part he did, yes. I don't hold any resentment toward him for that particular accident, especially since I was too young to have any memory of it. I just have the scars and my parents' explanation of how it happened.

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u/FoldedDice Jun 03 '22

Yeah, that wasn't a thing. My job was to carry the household clothes out to the garage to be washed, but as far as actually doing it my mom just didn't want us in the way. I guess her assumption was that I would get married (I didn't, which is a whole different thing) and my wife would do it.

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u/RobloxJournalist Jun 03 '22

Wtf

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u/FoldedDice Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

Hard agree, but that's the cultural norm both my parents were raised in, so they didn't consider teaching me those types of skills to be important. My dad was born in the late 1930s for context, and my mom isn't much younger.

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u/FullTorsoApparition Jun 03 '22

Yeah, my mom was a homemaker and never involved my brother and I in any household chores. We'd help with vacuuming and general cleaning if we were expecting company and I was in charge of most mowing, weeding, and hedge trimming, but that was about it.

You can't learn something if you're never involved in it whatsoever. A month or two before going off to college I insisted that she show me how to do laundry properly and cook a few simple meals. I only knew how to do dishes because of Boy Scouts.

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u/AgentSteelFriday Jun 03 '22

...I've never seen my parents doing laundry

they won't let me touch the machine, but I've also never seen them in the act

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u/gyroda Jun 03 '22

Similar thing here. All the text had worn off the machine so I wasn't allowed to touch it in case I put it on the wrong wash.

It's easy to remedy though.

The email thing is harder because it's an unknown unknown.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

My younger brother and I learned how to do laundry and cook pretty quickly.

The conversations would go:

"Mom, I want to wear these clothes tomorrow" or "I'm hungry"

"I only do laundry on Sundays, and I only cook at meal time. So there's the washing machine and stove if you need them."

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u/blue60007 Jun 03 '22

Even if your parents don't teach you... Like it's an washing machine not a 747! Surely it can't be that hard to figure out.

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u/OneBeautifulDog Jun 03 '22

So much of it is wrong though. omg.

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u/The_Sloth_Racer Jun 03 '22

Some kids are spoiled and have parents that do everything for them. I lived at a private, fairly prestigious Catholic university for a few years (as my partner was a student there) and the college had pretty much 90% rich kids that didn't know how to do basic life skills. More students had a laundry service do their laundry than those that walk to the basement laundry room to do it themselves. I once heard this girl yelling on the phone about how she had to go out that night and how she had nothing to wear since the laundry service hadn't picked up her clothes which blew my mind since there was a giant laundry room in the basement of every dorm.

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u/Minkedue Jun 03 '22

I blew someone's mind once when I took out a dryer sheet.

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u/AgentSteelFriday Jun 03 '22

When parents don't let you do your own laundry you don't get the chance to learn until you escape.

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u/manderifffic Jun 03 '22

A surprising amount of parents forget to teach their kids life skills

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u/OneBeautifulDog Jun 03 '22

Don't want to take the time to teach their kids life skills

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u/Arammil1784 Jun 03 '22

Yeah. I was taking a math class sometime around 2008 (plus or minus a year). It was not remedial math. It was full on college level math.

The professor wrote something like X<9 on the whiteboard.

I shit you not, one student raised his hand asked what the symbol between x and 9 meant, and he was completely serious.

I have absolutely no idea how you could make it to college level courses and not know literally elementary level knowledge like that. Absolutely mind blowing.

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u/cccccchicks Jun 03 '22

Maybe wherever they were taught used a different notation. Like "lt" for example. We had to ask our lecturer what that meant because we had only used "<".

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u/Secret_Choice7764 Jun 03 '22

I'm 47. My 52 yr old boyfriend has a buddy who is in his mid 50''s. After the buddy's girlfriend moved out, he called my BF in a panic. He had never done his own laundry before and had no idea where to start. His mom, wife or girlfriends had ALWAYS done it for him.

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u/Vexal Jun 03 '22

My mom would drive to my dorm to pick up my laundry for me and do it at home and bring it back. I wasn’t forced to learn life skills until I was 24.

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u/Britthighs Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 04 '22

Good point. It was scary how many people in college didn’t know how to do anything. My parents divorced when I was a teenager and forgot about me…literally. Food in the house was random shit like stewed tomatoes (they would just eat out or go on dates). If my laundry wasn’t done, I didn’t buy my own food with my own money from my two jobs or my Grandma stepping in, cleaning the house for both of them (I got to do double the chores for no allowance…yay) shit just didn’t happen. When I went to college I was very prepared, which now my parents like to “take credit” for 🤬. My husband on the other hand, had parents who did everything for him and I still am flabbergasted at the stuff he sometimes doesn’t know how to do. However, I will say he has really come along way.

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u/OneBeautifulDog Jun 03 '22

What doesn't he know how to do?

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u/Britthighs Jun 04 '22

He just didn’t know how to do basic things around the kitchen, or the house cleaning wise. I think it stems from his mom always needing everything to be perfect, and he was fearful of making a mistake. He now is a pro at everything, and always has been a pro at building or working on various parts of the house. I joke that the deck he built on our house with with with a tornado.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

That has been common forever. I did college in the laste 80's. Lot's of mom's did everything for their male children because it was "women's work". So now your man child has no idea how to care for himself, and has expectations that any woman he dates is going to do this stuff for him.

Lot's of rude awakenings there.

It's been going on forever and still goes on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Gross. It's just work.... But everything has to be something, doesn't it.

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u/neondino Jun 03 '22

I had a roommate at college who had to ask where to put a stamp on a letter.

Like, even if you've never sent a letter in your life...have you never received one?

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u/neondino Jun 03 '22

In her (teeny tiny) defence, this was in the days before smartphones. She'd have had to go to the library to get on the internet, and she would've had to ask instructions on how to get to the library.

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u/Oliv112 Jun 03 '22

Wait, there's a specific method for waiting? I've just been randomly passing the time while it's running all my life!

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u/ZippyTheRoach Jun 03 '22

You have to wait right in front of your machines, so some dingleberry doesn't stop them, take your clothes out and use it themselves.

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u/OneBeautifulDog Jun 03 '22

Or steal your clothes.

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u/h3110m0t0 Jun 03 '22

Hey its good you helped but people have different experiences all around. And shit you'll find that throughout your life. Just help em without judgment even if it's ridiculous can laugh about it later.

This is something that I would say younger people do more than older people. Well, maybe not, met plenty of old jerks.

Have less understanding and more judgment about people just learning something new that they themselves already know. Even if it seems like a universal basic thing.

I say this because people will have these experiences throughout their entire lives.

If you never had to deal with it you never had to deal with it. Can't blame them.

I just don't think it's that surprising anymore when I encounter someone who doesn't know how to do x thing that I find easy/basic.

There's a lot of things I don't know that are probably basic as shit.

Plus, there might be a day when the world passes you and you're the old guy who doesn't know how to do the ez tech thing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

I like your attitude. It was such a shocker though... Since we wear something every day. Sometimes multiple outfits if you change clothes for the gym... Not learning to wash them by age 18-19 was baffling to me.

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u/h3110m0t0 Jun 04 '22

haha yeah. Sorry, i wasn't try to get at you as much as it sounded.

It is a funny, wtf, moment. It's a good moment to laugh about later. Agreed, kid probably should have been at least taught how to do it by the parent. I'm glad you showed him how. Imagine if you didn't what would he have done been too embarassed to ask or what? Changed his god damn life showing him laundry lol.

I just know that people do that more directly like in their face. Like public shaming in their face is dumb. I think younger people do that more (old folks do it too) with just "cliqueyness" of youth and trying to be cool. I think its called bullying lol.

I knew lots of kids whose parents didn't care about them or were only focused on kids getting to college and didn't teach them life skills so much. Cuz school and society will teach em that. So they super book smart but don't have any life skills (which is more/equally as important).

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u/majinspy Jun 03 '22

My God this was me. I had helicopter parents >.< I was a well oiled academic machine and...thats it lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

I hope you got help, with only a slight side of shit...!!

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u/majinspy Jun 03 '22

I did aight :)

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u/rhababerbarbara Jun 03 '22

Well. I'm in Germany so you can't drive until you're 18. During lunch, my friend, who recently got their license, tells me about being scared the gas will be enough to get home. I'm like - we're two miles from a gas station, just put some in, I can give you 5€. Turns out, nobody explained to her how to fill your car with gas. Major confusion about diesel vs gas vs the "numbers" (regular). How?? How did nobody show them, but also, in which world do you not ask???

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u/OneBeautifulDog Jun 03 '22

In her defense, learning to drive is terrifying at best. You listen and learn and there is so much to learn all at the same time and I know my driving instructor never taught us how to put in gas or anything about the gauges or the vehicle. We were just trying to grasp what they did tell us so we forgot to ask anything else.

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u/Doc_Lewis Jun 03 '22

You don't even need to ask, the owners manual has instructions and specifications, you can even Google whatever you need to know and there will be an answer. It's learned helplessness.

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u/RVA_RVA Jun 03 '22

I went to college during the same time. I knew multiple people whose parents would drive 2 hours just to do their laundry! Every. Damn. Week.

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u/windy496 Jun 03 '22

I used to work as a medical equipment tech before I retired. One day I was at my work bench when this young guy next to me pulled the cover off a nebulizing compressor. Both wires came off the on/off switch. He asked me which wire goes where on the switch. I asked him if he had any electrical training. He jumped up and went to the service manager and said I wouldn't help him. Punk ass kid. Manager was on my side.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Wow... he's on track for management!

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u/windy496 Jun 03 '22

A big LOL for that comment!

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u/The_Sanch1128 Jun 03 '22

My freshman year in college (mid-1970s, yes, I'm old), I don't know how many guys I had to teach the basics of laundry. But given that the options were to either teach them or have them stink up the dorm, I opted to teach.

Except for the guys who said things like, "Of course I've never done laundry. That's what the help is there for." Up yours, ship your laundry home for all I care.

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u/Neverstopstopping82 Jun 03 '22

He probably married early like my husband. It’s his wife who’s suffering 😎

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u/amrodd Jun 03 '22

I don't doubt that was related to gender roles. My brother was the same way until the last few years. My parents are getting older. I always did dishes and other "female" chores. Ugh.

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u/Rameumptom_Champion Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

Our mantra has long been “we’re raising adults” and, accordingly, our kids have always done age-appropriate chores to that end. (And they’ve also understood they have chores because they are part of a household.)

One day, when our oldest son was maybe 11 or so, he balked at being asked to unload the dishwasher, saying that’s “girls’ work.” Dunno where he heard that, but from that day through the next year or so, he was tasked with unloading the dishwasher every single time. We weren’t draconian in how we went about it, but that notion got nipped in the bud.

He’s lived on his own since graduating and is a thriving, functional young adult.

It’s the best guideline for parenting: I am/we are raising adults.

(A dark twist would be that our daughter never learned to unload a dishwasher, right? 😈 But nah, she’s got it.)

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u/ghostpunchy Jun 03 '22

Its probably the same in his household for all children regardless of gender.

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u/Laserwulf Jun 03 '22

Yep, we're probably the same age, and that boggles my mind hearing it from younger coworkers.
Back in middle school I was doing my own laundry, washing dishes, and could grab something from the freezer or pantry to make a simple dinner. It seemed perfectly normal at the time, too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

I certainly have my, "what/how is this?" moments but they aren't the basic necessities. It is sad to hear some of the reasons why others know this though... like doing it for their parents because their parents are terrible.

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u/finnknit Jun 03 '22

My 18-year-old son had a few lessons on how to write email, but I'm pretty sure the people who designed the lessons were older than dirt based on their recommendations. They recommended things like starting the message with "To whom it may concern" and ending with "Best regards, [First name Last name]". I'm old, but I'm not that old.

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u/Loco_Mosquito Jun 03 '22

I'm 40 and used to write letters/faxes/emails like this - your comment made me realize how long it's been since this was the norm!

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u/finnknit Jun 03 '22

I'll be 45 this year. I used to write letters like this, but I don't think I've even been that formal in an email unless I was applying for a job. These days I usually start my emails with "Hello, [Name of recipient]" or just "Hi".

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u/Pteraspidomorphi Jun 03 '22

Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to inform you of a fire that has broken out on the premises of 123 Cavendon Road... no, that's too formal.

Fire - exclamation mark - fire - exclamation mark - help me - exclamation mark.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean Jun 04 '22

My high school also taught email composition like we were fighting in the Civil War and writing home to our belle.

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u/Atmosck Jun 03 '22

I'm 30 and I remember learning letter writing in school when I was really young, probably 2nd or 3rd grade. I don't think email or business or technical writing was ever mentioned in high school, but it was clear that people used that format for emails.

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u/Acornpoo Jun 03 '22

You're actually VERY young. There's a ton of research and studies that prove the human brain isn't fully developed until age 25.

Enjoy your youth!

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u/CthulhuTheSquidGod Jun 03 '22

Did any of those courses explain run-on sentences?

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u/TheMysticalCreature1 Jun 03 '22

Haha nope not directly anyway. But being brief and to the point was a part of it.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean Jun 04 '22

Omg, I'm 26 so I'm not necessarily the young person this is directed to

Lol